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From: "Darrick J. Wong" <djwong@kernel.org>
To: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>
Cc: SHAURYA RANE <ssrane_b23@ee.vjti.ac.in>,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, shakeel.butt@linux.dev,
	eddyz87@gmail.com, andrii@kernel.org, ast@kernel.org,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel-mentees@lists.linux.dev, skhan@linuxfoundation.org,
	david.hunter.linux@gmail.com, khalid@kernel.org,
	syzbot+09b7d050e4806540153d@syzkaller.appspotmail.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm/filemap: fix NULL pointer dereference in do_read_cache_folio()
Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2025 08:41:55 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20251117164155.GB196362@frogsfrogsfrogs> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aRpQ7LTZDP-Xz-Sr@casper.infradead.org>

On Sun, Nov 16, 2025 at 10:32:12PM +0000, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
> First, some process things ;-)
> 
> 1. Thank you for working on this.  Andrii has been ignoring it since
> August, which is bad.  So thank you for picking it up.
> 
> 2. Sending a v2 while we're having a discussion is generally a bad idea.
> It's fine to send a patch as a reply, but going as far as a v2 isn't
> necessary.  If conversation has died down, then a v2 is definitely
> warranted, but you and I are still having a discussion ;-)
> 
> 3. When you do send a v2 (or, now that you've sent a v2, send a v3),
> do it as a new thread rather then in reply to the v1 thread.  That plays
> better with the tooling we have like b4 which will pull in all patches
> in a thread.
> 
> With that over with, on to the fun technical stuff.
> 
> On Sun, Nov 16, 2025 at 11:13:42AM +0530, SHAURYA RANE wrote:
> > On Sat, Nov 15, 2025 at 2:14 AM Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Sat, Nov 15, 2025 at 01:07:29AM +0530, ssrane_b23@ee.vjti.ac.in wrote:
> > > > When read_cache_folio() is called with a NULL filler function on a
> > > > mapping that does not implement read_folio, a NULL pointer
> > > > dereference occurs in filemap_read_folio().
> > > >
> > > > The crash occurs when:
> > > >
> > > > build_id_parse() is called on a VMA backed by a file from a
> > > > filesystem that does not implement ->read_folio() (e.g. procfs,
> > > > sysfs, or other virtual filesystems).
> > >
> > > Not a fan of this approach, to be honest.  This should be caught at
> > > a higher level.  In __build_id_parse(), there's already a check:
> > >
> > >         /* only works for page backed storage  */
> > >         if (!vma->vm_file)
> > >                 return -EINVAL;
> > >
> > > which is funny because the comment is correct, but the code is not.
> > > I suspect the right answer is to add right after it:
> > >
> > > +       if (vma->vm_file->f_mapping->a_ops == &empty_aops)
> > > +               return -EINVAL;
> > >
> > > Want to test that out?
> > Thanks for the suggestion.
> > Checking for
> >     a_ops == &empty_aops
> > is not enough. Certain filesystems for example XFS with DAX use
> > their own a_ops table (not empty_aops) but still do not implement
> > ->read_folio(). In those cases read_cache_folio() still ends up with
> > filler = NULL and filemap_read_folio(NULL) crashes.
> 
> Ah, right.  I had assumed that the only problem was synthetic
> filesystems like sysfs and procfs which can't have buildids because
> buildids only exist in executables.  And neither procfs nor sysfs
> contain executables.
> 
> But DAX is different.  You can absolutely put executables on a DAX
> filesystem.  So we shouldn't filter out DAX here.  And we definitely
> shouldn't *silently* fail for DAX.  Otherwise nobody will ever realise
> that the buildid people just couldn't be bothered to make DAX work.
> 
> I don't think it's necessarily all that hard to make buildid work
> for DAX.  It's probably something like:
> 
> 	if (IS_DAX(file_inode(file)))
> 		kernel_read(file, buf, count, &pos);
> 
> but that's just off the top of my head.

I wondered why this whole thing opencodes kernel_read, but then I
noticed zero fstests for it and decid*******************************
*****.

--D

> 
> I really don't want the check for filler being NULL in read_cache_folio().
> I want it to crash noisily if callers are doing something stupid.
> 


  parent reply	other threads:[~2025-11-17 16:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-11-14 19:37 ssrane_b23
2025-11-14 20:44 ` Matthew Wilcox
2025-11-16  5:42   ` [PATCH v2] " ssrane_b23
2025-11-16  5:43   ` [PATCH] " SHAURYA RANE
2025-11-16 22:32     ` Matthew Wilcox
2025-11-17 14:10       ` Shaurya Rane
2025-11-17 18:42         ` Andrii Nakryiko
2025-11-17 16:41       ` Darrick J. Wong [this message]
2025-11-17 18:03         ` Matthew Wilcox
2025-11-17 18:45           ` Andrii Nakryiko
2025-11-18 13:03             ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-11-18 15:37               ` Matthew Wilcox
2025-11-18 16:12                 ` Darrick J. Wong
2025-11-18 19:38                   ` Andrii Nakryiko
2025-11-19  5:52                     ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-11-19  6:29                     ` Darrick J. Wong
2025-11-18 19:27                 ` Andrii Nakryiko
2025-11-19  5:50                   ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-11-19 17:12                     ` Andrii Nakryiko
2025-11-18  5:05       ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-11-18 12:51         ` Matthew Wilcox
2025-11-18 12:56           ` Christoph Hellwig

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