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From: Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>
To: Brendan Jackman <jackmanb@google.com>
Cc: Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>,
	Lorenzo Stoakes <lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com>,
	"Liam R. Howlett" <Liam.Howlett@oracle.com>,
	Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>, Zi Yan <ziy@nvidia.com>,
	Axel Rasmussen <axelrasmussen@google.com>,
	Yuanchu Xie <yuanchu@google.com>,
	Roman Gushchin <roman.gushchin@linux.dev>,
	peterz@infradead.org, dave.hansen@linux.intel.com,
	mingo@redhat.com, tglx@linutronix.de, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
	david@redhat.com, derkling@google.com, junaids@google.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
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	vbabka@suse.cz, x86@kernel.org,
	Yosry Ahmed <yosry.ahmed@linux.dev>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 02/21] x86/mm/asi: add X86_FEATURE_ASI and asi=
Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2025 12:26:40 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20251110112640.GVaRHL8GME4ODowica@fat_crate.local> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <DDSLTWM2FL58.3MIDS5WUOEEZW@google.com>

On Sun, Oct 26, 2025 at 10:24:35PM +0000, Brendan Jackman wrote:
> Hm yeah, I actually also thought I had some direct feedback from one of
> the x86 maintainers saying not to expose it here. I can no longer find
> that feedback on Lore so I think I must be misremembering, the flag
> was already hidden back in [0].
> 
> [0] https://lore.kernel.org/linux-mm/20240712-asi-rfc-24-v1-5-144b319a40d8@google.com/
> 
> If that feedback indeed doesn't exist

Just ignore everything whoever might've told you or not - we override all
previous statements! :-P

From Documentation/arch/x86/cpuinfo.rst

"So, the current use of /proc/cpuinfo is to show features which the
kernel has *enabled* and *supports*. As in: the CPUID feature flag is
there, there's an additional setup which the kernel has done while
booting and the functionality is ready to use. A perfect example for
that is "user_shstk" where additional code enablement is present in the
kernel to support shadow stack for user programs."

So it is all written down now and is the law! :-P

> then personally I'd lean towards exposing it right away, I don't see that
> much downside in terms of ABI, since ASI kinda "doesn't do anything", from
> a SW point of view it's just a very weird and complicated NOP. It's hard for
> me to see how userspace could grow a functional dependency on this flag.
> Whereas for general monitoring it's handy.

The point is: once all the ASI code lands, we should show it in cpuinfo. As
in: "this kernel supports ASI" and not "there's asi in cpuinfo but well,
that's not the whole deal."

Makes sense?

> > Not an early_param() ?
> 
> Oh this is just for consistency with pti_check_boottime_disable(). But,
> I think that function actually exists because of init ordering issues
> that aren't relevant here, so early_param() seems fine to me (or, if I
> find some reason why it doesn't, work, I'll add a comment in v2 to
> explain why we don't use it).

Ack.

> Thanks for taking a look :)

Sure, np.

-- 
Regards/Gruss,
    Boris.

https://people.kernel.org/tglx/notes-about-netiquette


  reply	other threads:[~2025-11-10 11:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 65+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-09-24 14:59 [PATCH 00/21] mm: ASI direct map management Brendan Jackman
2025-09-24 14:59 ` [PATCH 01/21] x86/mm/asi: Add CONFIG_MITIGATION_ADDRESS_SPACE_ISOLATION Brendan Jackman
2025-10-24 22:37   ` Borislav Petkov
2025-10-24 23:32     ` Brendan Jackman
2025-10-25  9:57       ` Borislav Petkov
2025-09-24 14:59 ` [PATCH 02/21] x86/mm/asi: add X86_FEATURE_ASI and asi= Brendan Jackman
2025-10-25 10:06   ` Borislav Petkov
2025-10-26 22:24     ` Brendan Jackman
2025-11-10 11:26       ` Borislav Petkov [this message]
2025-11-10 12:15         ` Brendan Jackman
2025-09-24 14:59 ` [PATCH 03/21] x86/mm: factor out phys_pgd_init() Brendan Jackman
2025-09-27 19:29   ` kernel test robot
2025-10-01 12:26     ` Brendan Jackman
2025-10-25 11:48   ` Borislav Petkov
2025-10-26 22:29     ` Brendan Jackman
2025-11-10 11:38       ` Borislav Petkov
2025-11-10 12:36         ` Brendan Jackman
2025-09-24 14:59 ` [PATCH 04/21] x86/mm/asi: set up asi_nonsensitive_pgd Brendan Jackman
2025-10-01 20:28   ` Dave Hansen
2025-10-02 14:05     ` Brendan Jackman
2025-10-02 16:14       ` Dave Hansen
2025-10-02 17:19         ` Brendan Jackman
2025-11-12 19:39           ` Dave Hansen
2025-11-11 14:55   ` Borislav Petkov
2025-11-11 17:53     ` Brendan Jackman
2025-09-24 14:59 ` [PATCH 05/21] x86/mm/pat: mirror direct map changes to ASI Brendan Jackman
2025-09-25 13:36   ` kernel test robot
2025-10-01 20:50   ` Dave Hansen
2025-10-02 14:31     ` Brendan Jackman
2025-10-02 16:40       ` Dave Hansen
2025-10-02 17:08         ` Brendan Jackman
2025-09-24 14:59 ` [PATCH 06/21] mm/page_alloc: add __GFP_SENSITIVE and always set it Brendan Jackman
2025-10-01 21:18   ` Dave Hansen
2025-10-02 14:34     ` Brendan Jackman
2025-09-24 14:59 ` [PATCH 07/21] mm: introduce for_each_free_list() Brendan Jackman
2025-09-24 14:59 ` [PATCH 08/21] mm: rejig pageblock mask definitions Brendan Jackman
2025-09-24 14:59 ` [PATCH 09/21] mm/page_alloc: Invert is_check_pages_enabled() check Brendan Jackman
2025-09-24 14:59 ` [PATCH 10/21] mm/page_alloc: remove ifdefs from pindex helpers Brendan Jackman
2025-09-24 14:59 ` [PATCH 11/21] mm: introduce freetype_t Brendan Jackman
2025-09-25 13:15   ` kernel test robot
2025-10-01 21:20   ` Dave Hansen
2025-10-02 14:39     ` Brendan Jackman
2025-09-24 14:59 ` [PATCH 12/21] mm/asi: encode sensitivity in freetypes and pageblocks Brendan Jackman
2025-09-24 14:59 ` [PATCH 13/21] mm/page_alloc_test: unit test pindex helpers Brendan Jackman
2025-09-25 13:36   ` kernel test robot
2025-09-24 14:59 ` [PATCH 14/21] x86/mm/pat: introduce cpa_fault option Brendan Jackman
2025-09-24 14:59 ` [PATCH 15/21] mm/page_alloc: rename ALLOC_NON_BLOCK back to _HARDER Brendan Jackman
2025-09-24 14:59 ` [PATCH 16/21] mm/page_alloc: introduce ALLOC_NOBLOCK Brendan Jackman
2025-09-24 14:59 ` [PATCH 17/21] mm/slub: defer application of gfp_allowed_mask Brendan Jackman
2025-09-24 14:59 ` [PATCH 18/21] mm/asi: support changing pageblock sensitivity Brendan Jackman
2025-09-24 14:59 ` [PATCH 19/21] mm/asi: bad_page() when ASI mappings are wrong Brendan Jackman
2025-09-24 14:59 ` [PATCH 20/21] x86/mm/asi: don't use global pages when ASI enabled Brendan Jackman
2025-09-24 14:59 ` [PATCH 21/21] mm: asi_test: smoke test for [non]sensitive page allocs Brendan Jackman
2025-09-25 17:51 ` [PATCH 00/21] mm: ASI direct map management Brendan Jackman
2025-09-30 19:51 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2025-10-01  7:12   ` Brendan Jackman
2025-10-01 19:54 ` Dave Hansen
2025-10-01 20:22   ` Yosry Ahmed
2025-10-01 20:30     ` Dave Hansen
2025-10-02 11:05       ` Brendan Jackman
2025-10-01 20:59 ` Dave Hansen
2025-10-02  7:34   ` David Hildenbrand
2025-10-02 11:23   ` Brendan Jackman
2025-10-02 17:01     ` Dave Hansen
2025-10-02 19:19       ` Brendan Jackman

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