From: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
To: Alex Markuze <amarkuze@redhat.com>
Cc: ceph-devel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-mm@kvack.org, Liam.Howlett@oracle.com,
akpm@linux-foundation.org, bsegall@google.com, david@redhat.com,
dietmar.eggemann@arm.com, idryomov@gmail.com, mingo@redhat.com,
juri.lelli@redhat.com, kees@kernel.org,
lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com, mgorman@suse.de, mhocko@suse.com,
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vschneid@redhat.com, vincent.guittot@linaro.org, vbabka@suse.cz,
xiubli@redhat.com, Slava.Dubeyko@ibm.com
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 0/5] BLOG: per-task logging contexts with Ceph consumer
Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2025 10:59:44 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20251025105944.1a04e518@batman.local.home> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAO8a2ShRVUAFOc7HECWbuR7aZV0Va3eZs=zxSsxtu0cMvJmb5g@mail.gmail.com>
On Sat, 25 Oct 2025 13:50:39 +0300
Alex Markuze <amarkuze@redhat.com> wrote:
> First of all, Ftrace is for debugging and development; you won't see
> components or kernel modules run in production with ftrace enabled.
> The main motivation is to have verbose logging that is usable for
> production systems.
That is totally untrue. Several production environments use ftrace. We
have it enabled and used in Chromebooks and in Android. Google servers
also have it enabled.
> The second improvement is that the logs have a struct task hook which
> facilitates better logging association between the kernel log and the
> user process.
> It's especially handy when debugging FS systems.
So this is for use with debugging too?
>
> Specifically we had several bugs reported from the field that we could
> not make progress on without additional logs.
This still doesn't answer my question about not using ftrace. Heck,
when I worked for Red Hat, we used ftrace to debug production
environments. Did that change?
-- Steve
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-10-25 14:59 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-10-24 8:42 Alex Markuze
2025-10-24 8:42 ` [RFC PATCH 1/5] sched, fork: Wire BLOG contexts into task lifecycle Alex Markuze
2025-10-24 17:44 ` Steven Rostedt
2025-10-29 18:57 ` Viacheslav Dubeyko
2025-10-24 8:42 ` [RFC PATCH 2/5] lib: Introduce BLOG (Binary LOGging) subsystem Alex Markuze
2025-10-30 18:47 ` Viacheslav Dubeyko
2025-10-24 8:42 ` [RFC PATCH 3/5] ceph: Add BLOG scaffolding Alex Markuze
2025-11-03 22:37 ` Viacheslav Dubeyko
2025-10-24 8:42 ` [RFC PATCH 4/5] ceph: Add BLOG debugfs support Alex Markuze
2025-11-03 21:07 ` Viacheslav Dubeyko
2025-10-24 8:42 ` [RFC PATCH 5/5] ceph: Activate BLOG logging Alex Markuze
2025-11-03 21:00 ` Viacheslav Dubeyko
2025-10-24 15:32 ` [RFC PATCH 0/5] BLOG: per-task logging contexts with Ceph consumer David Hildenbrand
2025-10-24 17:53 ` Steven Rostedt
2025-10-25 10:50 ` Alex Markuze
2025-10-25 14:59 ` Steven Rostedt [this message]
2025-10-25 17:54 ` Alex Markuze
2025-10-27 14:54 ` Steven Rostedt
2025-10-28 17:07 ` Viacheslav Dubeyko
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