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From: Wei Yang <richard.weiyang@gmail.com>
To: Lance Yang <lance.yang@linux.dev>
Cc: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>,
	Wei Yang <richard.weiyang@gmail.com>,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com,
	Liam.Howlett@oracle.com, baohua@kernel.org,
	baolin.wang@linux.alibaba.com, dev.jain@arm.com,
	hughd@google.com, ioworker0@gmail.com, kirill@shutemov.name,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	mpenttil@redhat.com, npache@redhat.com, ryan.roberts@arm.com,
	ziy@nvidia.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH mm-new v2 1/1] mm/khugepaged: abort collapse scan on non-swap entries
Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2025 01:37:02 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20251008013702.6cjaufazal6zpvga@master> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <29742109-13c2-4fa6-a3a1-d12b14641404@linux.dev>

On Tue, Oct 07, 2025 at 06:25:13PM +0800, Lance Yang wrote:
>
>
>On 2025/10/6 22:18, David Hildenbrand wrote:
>> On 05.10.25 04:12, Lance Yang wrote:
[...]
>> 
>> I was looking into some possible races with uffd-wp being set before we
>> enter do_swap_page(), but I think it might be okay (although very
>> confusing).
>
>How about the version below?
>
>```
>Currently, special non-swap entries (like PTE markers) are not caught
>early in hpage_collapse_scan_pmd(), leading to failures deep in the
>swap-in logic.
>
>A function that is called __collapse_huge_page_swapin() and documented
>to "Bring missing pages in from swap" will handle other types as well.
>
>As analyzed by David[1], we could have ended up with the following
>entry types right before do_swap_page():
>
>  (1) Migration entries. We would have waited.
>      -> Maybe worth it to wait, maybe not. We suspect we don't stumble
>         into that frequently such that we don't care. We could always
>         unlock this separately later.
>
>  (2) Device-exclusive entries. We would have converted to non-exclusive.
>      -> See make_device_exclusive(), we cannot tolerate PMD entries and
>         have to split them through FOLL_SPLIT_PMD. As popped up during
>         a recent discussion, collapsing here is actually
>         counter-productive, because the next conversion will PTE-map
>         it again.
>      -> Ok to not collapse.
>
>  (3) Device-private entries. We would have migrated to RAM.
>      -> Device-private still does not support THPs, so collapsing right
>         now just means that the next device access would split the
>         folio again.
>      -> Ok to not collapse.
>
>  (4) HWPoison entries
>      -> Cannot collapse
>
>  (5) Markers
>      -> Cannot collapse
>
>First, this patch adds an early check for these non-swap entries. If
>any one is found, the scan is aborted immediately with the
>SCAN_PTE_NON_PRESENT result, as Lorenzo suggested[2], avoiding wasted
>work.
>
>Second, as Wei pointed out[3], we may have a chance to get a non-swap
>entry, since we will drop and re-acquire the mmap lock before
>__collapse_huge_page_swapin(). To handle this, we also add a
>non_swap_entry() check there.
>
>Note that we can unlock later what we really need, and not account it
>towards max_swap_ptes.
>
>[1] https://lore.kernel.org/linux-mm/09eaca7b-9988-41c7-8d6e-4802055b3f1e@redhat.com
>[2] https://lore.kernel.org/linux-mm/7df49fe7-c6b7-426a-8680-dcd55219c8bd@lucifer.local
>[3] https://lore.kernel.org/linux-mm/20251005010511.ysek2nqojebqngf3@master
>```
>
>I also think it makes sense to fold the change that adds the
>non_swap_entry() check in __collapse_huge_page_swapin() into
>this patch, rather than creating a new patch just for that :)
>

Agree.

>Hmmm... one thing I'm not sure about: regarding the uffd-wp
>race you mentioned, is the pte_swp_uffd_wp() check needed
>after non_swap_entry()? It seems like it might not be ...
>
>```
>diff --git a/mm/khugepaged.c b/mm/khugepaged.c
>index f4f57ba69d72..bec3e268dc76 100644
>--- a/mm/khugepaged.c
>+++ b/mm/khugepaged.c
>@@ -1020,6 +1020,11 @@ static int __collapse_huge_page_swapin(struct
>mm_struct *mm,
> 		if (!is_swap_pte(vmf.orig_pte))
> 			continue;
>
>+		if (non_swap_entry(pte_to_swp_entry(vmf.orig_pte))) {
>+			result = SCAN_PTE_NON_PRESENT;
>+			goto out;
>+		}
>+
> 		vmf.pte = pte;
> 		vmf.ptl = ptl;
> 		ret = do_swap_page(&vmf);
>```
>
>@David does that sound good to you?

-- 
Wei Yang
Help you, Help me


  reply	other threads:[~2025-10-08  1:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-10-01  3:22 Lance Yang
2025-10-01  8:31 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-10-01  9:38   ` Lance Yang
2025-10-01  8:54 ` Wei Yang
2025-10-01  9:15   ` David Hildenbrand
2025-10-01 10:05   ` Lance Yang
2025-10-01 13:52     ` Wei Yang
2025-10-05  1:05     ` Wei Yang
2025-10-05  2:12       ` Lance Yang
2025-10-06 14:18         ` David Hildenbrand
2025-10-06 15:02           ` Lance Yang
2025-10-07 10:25           ` Lance Yang
2025-10-08  1:37             ` Wei Yang [this message]
2025-10-08  9:00             ` David Hildenbrand
2025-10-01 10:20 ` Dev Jain
2025-10-01 10:48   ` Lance Yang

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