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From: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
To: Gregory Price <gourry@gourry.net>
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, corbet@lwn.net, muchun.song@linux.dev,
	osalvador@suse.de, david@redhat.com, hannes@cmpxchg.org,
	laoar.shao@gmail.com, brauner@kernel.org, mclapinski@google.com,
	joel.granados@kernel.org, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>,
	Alexandru Moise <00moses.alexander00@gmail.com>,
	Mike Kravetz <mike.kravetz@oracle.com>,
	David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Revert "mm, hugetlb: remove hugepages_treat_as_movable sysctl"
Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2025 14:59:55 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20251007145955.31dba3afad6200e885e906a5@linux-foundation.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20251007214412.3832340-1-gourry@gourry.net>

On Tue,  7 Oct 2025 17:44:12 -0400 Gregory Price <gourry@gourry.net> wrote:

> This reverts commit d6cb41cc44c63492702281b1d329955ca767d399.

It's been seven years.  Perhaps "reintroduce hugepages_treat_as_movable
sysctl" would be a better way of presenting this.  Not very important.

> This sysctl provides some flexibility between multiple requirements which
> are difficult to square without adding significantly more complexity.
> 
> 1) onlining memory in ZONE_MOVABLE to maintain hotplug compatibility
> 2) onlining memory in ZONE_MOVABLE to prevent GFP_KERNEL usage
> 3) passing NUMA structure through to a virtual machine (node0=vnode0,
>    node1=vnode1) so a guest can make good placement decisions.
> 4) utilizing 1GB hugepages for VM host memory to reduce TLB pressure
> 5) Managing device memory after init-time to avoid incidental usage
>    at boot (due to being placed in ZONE_NORMAL), or to provide users
>    configuration flexibility.
> 
> When device-hotplugged memory does not require hot-unplug assurances,
> there is no reason to avoid allowing otherwise non-migratable hugepages
> in this zone.  This allows for allocation of 1GB gigantic pages for VMs
> with existing mechanisms.
> 
> Boot-time CMA is not possible for driver-managed hotplug memory, as CMA
> requires the memory to be registered as SystemRAM at boot time.
> 
> Updated the code to land in appropriate locations since it all moved.
> Updated the documentation to add more context when this is useful.

I'll duck the patch for now, see what people have to say.

> --- a/mm/hugetlb.c
> +++ b/mm/hugetlb.c
> @@ -55,6 +55,8 @@
>  #include "hugetlb_cma.h"
>  #include <linux/page-isolation.h>
>  
> +int hugepages_treat_as_movable;
> +
>  int hugetlb_max_hstate __read_mostly;
>  unsigned int default_hstate_idx;
>  struct hstate hstates[HUGE_MAX_HSTATE];

Could sprinkle some more __read_mostlys around here?

>
> ...
>


  reply	other threads:[~2025-10-07 22:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-10-07 21:44 Gregory Price
2025-10-07 21:59 ` Andrew Morton [this message]
2025-10-07 22:12   ` Gregory Price
2025-10-08  8:58 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-10-08 14:18   ` Gregory Price
2025-10-08 14:44     ` David Hildenbrand
2025-10-08 18:58       ` Gregory Price
2025-10-08 19:01         ` David Hildenbrand
2025-10-08 19:44           ` Gregory Price
2025-10-08 19:52             ` David Hildenbrand
2025-10-08 19:59               ` Gregory Price
2025-10-08 14:59   ` Michal Hocko
2025-10-08 15:14     ` David Hildenbrand
2025-10-08 15:23       ` Michal Hocko
2025-10-08 15:43         ` David Hildenbrand
2025-10-08 16:31           ` Gregory Price
2025-10-09  6:14             ` Michal Hocko
2025-10-09 15:29               ` Gregory Price
2025-10-09 18:47                 ` Michal Hocko
2025-10-09 18:51                 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-10-09 21:31                   ` Gregory Price
2025-10-10  7:40                     ` David Hildenbrand
2025-10-10 18:53                       ` Gregory Price
2025-10-08 16:08     ` Frank van der Linden
2025-10-08 16:39       ` Gregory Price
2025-10-08 17:05       ` Gregory Price

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