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From: Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>
To: Nhat Pham <nphamcs@gmail.com>
Cc: Yosry Ahmed <yosry.ahmed@linux.dev>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Chengming Zhou <zhouchengming@bytedance.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/3] mm: remove zpool
Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2025 16:03:26 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250909150326.GC1474@cmpxchg.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAKEwX=P=2cm7X4VMGO==xqmcFfBj4tq_YU9DqCSbyAmCioDccg@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Sep 05, 2025 at 02:35:12PM -0700, Nhat Pham wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 5, 2025 at 12:45 PM Yosry Ahmed <yosry.ahmed@linux.dev> wrote:
> >
> > On Fri, Sep 05, 2025 at 10:52:18AM -0700, Nhat Pham wrote:
> > > On Fri, Aug 29, 2025 at 9:22 AM Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > zpool is an indirection layer for zswap to switch between multiple
> > > > allocator backends at runtime. Since 6.15, zsmalloc is the only
> > > > allocator left in-tree, so there is no point in keeping zpool around.
> > > >
> > >
> > > Taking a step back, even if we do have needs for multiple allocators
> > > for different setups, having it runtime-selectable makes no sense.
> >
> > Honestly I think we should take it a step further and make the
> > compressor selection only at build/boot time and completely get rid of
> > supporting having multiple pools. We'd create one pool at initilization
> > and that would be it.
> >
> > I believe this will simplify things considerably, and I doubt changing
> > the compressor at runtime has a valid use case beyond experimentation.
> 
> You are completely right.
> 
> And, even if there's a setup where we benefit from multiple
> compressors, the current setup is definitely not it. How are we
> realistically going to use these sysfs knobs? Change to one
> compressor, then quickly change it back? How is this remotely useful?
> 
> Let's remove it all. In the future, if we want to do multiple
> compression tiers, or per-cgroup compression algorithm, we will need a
> completely different architecture anyway.

+1 Completely agreed, it's not worth all this fragile code in zswap.c.

I'll send follow-up patches.


  reply	other threads:[~2025-09-09 15:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-08-29 16:15 Johannes Weiner
2025-08-29 16:15 ` [PATCH 1/3] mm: zswap: interact directly with zsmalloc Johannes Weiner
2025-09-05 18:53   ` Yosry Ahmed
2025-09-09 15:01     ` Johannes Weiner
2025-09-09 20:10       ` Yosry Ahmed
2025-09-10 13:42         ` Johannes Weiner
2025-09-11 14:30           ` Yosry Ahmed
2025-09-15 15:36             ` Johannes Weiner
2025-09-15 19:33               ` Yosry Ahmed
2025-08-29 16:15 ` [PATCH 2/3] mm: remove unused zpool layer Johannes Weiner
2025-08-29 19:07   ` SeongJae Park
2025-09-09 15:13     ` Johannes Weiner
2025-09-10  3:14       ` SeongJae Park
2025-09-05 18:58   ` Yosry Ahmed
2025-09-09 15:16     ` Johannes Weiner
2025-09-09 20:08       ` Yosry Ahmed
2025-09-09 20:09         ` Yosry Ahmed
2025-09-10 13:46           ` Johannes Weiner
2025-08-29 16:15 ` [PATCH 3/3] mm: zpdesc: minor naming and comment corrections Johannes Weiner
2025-09-05 19:05   ` Yosry Ahmed
2025-09-09 15:11     ` Johannes Weiner
2025-09-09 20:08       ` Yosry Ahmed
2025-09-04  9:33 ` [PATCH 0/3] mm: remove zpool Vitaly Wool
2025-09-04 10:13   ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-09-04 11:26     ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-05  5:36       ` Vitaly Wool
2025-09-04 14:11     ` Vitaly Wool
2025-09-05  7:03       ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-09-05 18:02       ` Nhat Pham
2025-09-05 22:42         ` Vitaly Wool
2025-09-05 19:57       ` Yosry Ahmed
2025-09-06  5:25         ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2025-09-08 12:18           ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2025-09-09 20:12             ` Yosry Ahmed
2025-09-13 13:55               ` Vitaly Wool
2025-09-15 19:37                 ` Yosry Ahmed
2025-09-16 11:16                   ` Vitaly Wool
2025-09-16  3:29                 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2025-09-04 23:47   ` Andrew Morton
2025-09-05  5:42     ` Vitaly Wool
2025-09-05 18:30       ` Andrew Morton
2025-09-05 22:20         ` Vitaly Wool
2025-09-04  9:51 ` Vitaly Wool
2025-09-05 17:52 ` Nhat Pham
2025-09-05 19:45   ` Yosry Ahmed
2025-09-05 21:35     ` Nhat Pham
2025-09-09 15:03       ` Johannes Weiner [this message]
2025-09-09 20:11         ` Yosry Ahmed

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