From: Joshua Hahn <joshua.hahnjy@gmail.com>
To: "Huang, Ying" <ying.huang@linux.alibaba.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>,
Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>, Zi Yan <ziy@nvidia.com>,
Matthew Brost <matthew.brost@intel.com>,
Rakie Kim <rakie.kim@sk.com>, Byungchul Park <byungchul@sk.com>,
Gregory Price <gourry@gourry.net>,
Alistair Popple <apopple@nvidia.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
kernel-team@meta.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mempolicy: Clarify what RECLAIM_ZONE means
Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2025 07:51:07 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250728145109.1524733-1-joshua.hahnjy@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87ms8p2iop.fsf@DESKTOP-5N7EMDA>
On Mon, 28 Jul 2025 09:44:06 +0800 "Huang, Ying" <ying.huang@linux.alibaba.com> wrote:
> Hi, Joshua,
>
> Joshua Hahn <joshua.hahnjy@gmail.com> writes:
>
> > The zone_reclaim_mode API controls reclaim behavior when a node runs out of
> > memory. Contrary to its user-facing name, it is internally referred to as
> > "node_reclaim_mode". This is slightly confusing but there is not much we can
> > do given that it has already been exposed to userspace (since at least 2.6).
> >
> > However, what we can do is to make sure the internal description of what the
> > bits inside zone_reclaim_mode aligns with what it does in practice.
> > Setting RECLAIM_ZONE does indeed run shrink_inactive_list, but a more holistic
> > description would be to explain that zone reclaim modulates whether page
> > allocation (and khugepaged collapsing) prefers reclaiming & attempting to
> > allocate locally or should fall back to the next node in the zonelist.
> >
> > Change the description to clarify what zone reclaim entails.
> >
> > Signed-off-by: Joshua Hahn <joshua.hahnjy@gmail.com>
> > ---
> > include/uapi/linux/mempolicy.h | 2 +-
> > 1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-)
> >
> > diff --git a/include/uapi/linux/mempolicy.h b/include/uapi/linux/mempolicy.h
> > index 1f9bb10d1a47..24083809d920 100644
> > --- a/include/uapi/linux/mempolicy.h
> > +++ b/include/uapi/linux/mempolicy.h
> > @@ -69,7 +69,7 @@ enum {
> > * These bit locations are exposed in the vm.zone_reclaim_mode sysctl
> > * ABI. New bits are OK, but existing bits can never change.
> > */
> > -#define RECLAIM_ZONE (1<<0) /* Run shrink_inactive_list on the zone */
> > +#define RECLAIM_ZONE (1<<0) /* Prefer reclaiming & allocating locally */
> > #define RECLAIM_WRITE (1<<1) /* Writeout pages during reclaim */
> > #define RECLAIM_UNMAP (1<<2) /* Unmap pages during reclaim */
> >
> >
> > base-commit: 25fae0b93d1d7ddb25958bcb90c3c0e5e0e202bd
Hi Ying, thanks for your review, as always!
> Please consider the document of zone_reclaim_mode in
> Documentation/admin-guide/sysctl/vm.rst too.
Yes, will do. Along with SJ's comment, I think that the information in the
admin-guide should be sufficient enough to explain what these bits do, so
I think my patch is not very necessary.
> And, IIUC, RECLAIM_ZONE doesn't mean "locally" exactly. It's legal to
> bind to some node other than "local node".
You are correct, it seems you can also reclaim on non-local nodes once you
go further down in the zonelist. I think my intent with the new comment was just
to indicate a preference to reclaim and allocate on the *current* node, as
opposed to falling back to the next node in the zonelist.
With that said, I think your comment along with SJ's feedback have gotten me
to understand that we proably don't need this change : -)
Thank you, and have a great day!
Joshua
> ---
> Best Regards,
> Huang, Ying
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-07-28 14:51 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-07-25 17:35 Joshua Hahn
2025-07-25 21:44 ` SeongJae Park
2025-07-26 1:24 ` Joshua Hahn
2025-07-28 1:44 ` Huang, Ying
2025-07-28 14:51 ` Joshua Hahn [this message]
2025-07-29 0:58 ` Huang, Ying
2025-07-30 20:19 ` Joshua Hahn
2025-07-31 1:48 ` Huang, Ying
2025-07-31 18:45 ` SeongJae Park
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