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From: David Laight <david.laight.linux@gmail.com>
To: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
Cc: wang lian <lianux.mm@gmail.com>,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, Liam.Howlett@oracle.com,
	brauner@kernel.org, broonie@kernel.org, gkwang@linx-info.com,
	jannh@google.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com,
	ludovico.zy.wu@gmail.com, p1ucky0923@gmail.com, ryncsn@gmail.com,
	shuah@kernel.org, sj@kernel.org, vbabka@suse.cz,
	zijing.zhang@proton.me, ziy@nvidia.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] selftests/mm: reuse FORCE_READ to replace "asm volatile("" : "+r" (XXX));"
Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2025 10:27:38 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250719102738.06b91a8b@pumpkin> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <d27e9451-8807-4c86-b2aa-063639f7801d@redhat.com>

On Thu, 17 Jul 2025 13:43:45 +0200
David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com> wrote:

> On 17.07.25 12:48, wang lian wrote:
> >> On Wed, 16 Jul 2025 20:31:26 +0800 wang lian <lianux.mm@gmail.com> wrote:  
> >   
> >>> Several mm selftests use the `asm volatile("" : "+r" (variable));`
> >>> construct to force a read of a variable, preventing the compiler from
> >>> optimizing away the memory access. This idiom is cryptic and duplicated
> >>> across multiple test files.
> >>>
> >>> Following a suggestion from David[1], this patch refactors this
> >>> common pattern into a FORCE_READ() macro
> >>>
> >>>   tools/testing/selftests/mm/cow.c              | 30 +++++++++----------
> >>>   tools/testing/selftests/mm/hugetlb-madvise.c  |  5 +---
> >>>   tools/testing/selftests/mm/migration.c        | 13 ++++----
> >>>   tools/testing/selftests/mm/pagemap_ioctl.c    |  4 +--
> >>>   .../selftests/mm/split_huge_page_test.c       |  4 +--
> >>>   5 files changed, 24 insertions(+), 32 deletions(-)  
> >   
> >> The patch forgot to move the FORCE_READ definition into a header?  
> > 
> > Hi Andrew,
> > You are absolutely right. My apologies for the inconvenience.
> > This patch was sent standalone based on a suggestion from David during
> > the discussion of a previous, larger patch series. In that original series,
> > I had already moved the FORCE_READ() macro definition into vm_util.h.
> > 
> > You can find the original patch series and discussion at this link:
> > https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20250714130009.14581-1-lianux.mm@gmail.com/
> > It should also be in your mailing list archive.
> > 
> > To make this easier to review and apply, I can send a new, small patch series
> > that first introduces the FORCE_READ() macro in vm_util.h and then applies this refactoring.  
> 
> Please simply perform the move of FORCE_READ() in this very patch where 
> you also use it elswehere.

Why not use READ_ONCE() instead (or even just make all the variables 'volatile char *').
I had to look up the definition to find the hidden indirection in FORCE_READ().

It has to be said that now writes to variables that are READ_ONCE() have to be
WRITE_ONCE() why not just make the variables 'volatile'.
That will stop things bleating about missing READ/WRITE_ONCE() wrappers.
There was a rational for not using volatile, but it is getting to be moot.

	David


> 
> I missed that when skimming over this patch.
> 



  reply	other threads:[~2025-07-19  9:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-07-16 12:31 wang lian
2025-07-16 13:16 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-07-16 22:15 ` Andrew Morton
2025-07-17  6:58   ` Wei Yang
2025-07-17 10:48   ` wang lian
2025-07-17 11:43     ` David Hildenbrand
2025-07-19  9:27       ` David Laight [this message]
2025-07-20  9:23         ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-07-20 11:03           ` wang lian

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