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From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>
To: Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v9 3/6] KVM: arm64: Block cacheable PFNMAP mapping
Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2025 13:47:50 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250704164750.GO1410929@nvidia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aGf7gfMjLhrqU5Kv@willie-the-truck>

On Fri, Jul 04, 2025 at 05:04:17PM +0100, Will Deacon wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 04, 2025 at 02:21:32PM +0200, David Hildenbrand wrote:
> > On 30.06.25 14:25, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> > > On Mon, Jun 30, 2025 at 01:56:43AM +0000, Ankit Agrawal wrote:
> > > > > Sorry for the drive-by comment, but I was looking at this old series from
> > > > > Paolo (look at the cover letter and patch 5):
> > > > > 
> > > > > https://lore.kernel.org/r/20250109133817.314401-1-pbonzini@redhat.com
> > > > > 
> > > > > in which he points out that the arm64 get_vma_page_shift() function
> > > > > incorrectly assumes that a VM_PFNMAP VMA is physically contiguous, which
> > > > > may not be the case if a driver calls remap_pfn_range() to mess around
> > > > > with mappings within the VMA. I think that implies that the optimisation
> > > > > in 2aa53d68cee6 ("KVM: arm64: Try stage2 block mapping for host device
> > > > > MMIO") is unsound.
> > > > 
> > > > Hm yeah, that does seem problematic. Perhaps we need a new
> > > > vma flag that could help the driver communicate to the KVM that the
> > > > mapping is contiguous and it can go ahead with the optimization?
> > > > E.g. something similar to VM_ALLOW_ANY_UNCACHED.
> > > 
> > > I think Paolo has the right direction - remove any attempts by KVM to
> > > expand contiguity, it should only copy the primary's PTEs and rely on
> > > the primary to discover contiguity. No new flags.
> > 
> > 100%
> 
> The part I don't understand, however, is that I can't see an MMU notifier
> anywhere on the successful remap_pfn_range() path. So if a driver is
> using that interface to change the mapping properties of a VM_PFNMAP VMA,
> how do we ensure that the guest doesn't use whatever stale mappings it's
> faulted in previously? Did I just miss something?

Generally mmu notifiers are for invalidation, not used when
establishing new mappings.

It is not legal to use remap_pfn_range() to replace already mapped
PTEs. It can only be used during a fop mmap callback to establish the
first mapping during VMA creation. Thus there can be no present
mapping cached in a secondary and no need to invalidate.

To have dynamic mappings you have to use the fault path and a vmf_XX
function - which only happens if the address is non-present, so again
no invalidation.

Jason


  reply	other threads:[~2025-07-04 16:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-06-21  4:21 [PATCH v9 0/6] KVM: arm64: Map GPU device memory as cacheable ankita
2025-06-21  4:21 ` [PATCH v9 1/6] KVM: arm64: Rename the device variable to s2_force_noncacheable ankita
2025-07-04 13:41   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-07-04 13:57   ` David Hildenbrand
2025-06-21  4:21 ` [PATCH v9 2/6] KVM: arm64: Update the check to detect device memory ankita
2025-07-04 13:43   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-07-04 14:02   ` David Hildenbrand
2025-06-21  4:21 ` [PATCH v9 3/6] KVM: arm64: Block cacheable PFNMAP mapping ankita
2025-06-27 13:49   ` Will Deacon
2025-06-30  1:56     ` Ankit Agrawal
2025-06-30 12:25       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-07-04 12:21         ` David Hildenbrand
2025-07-04 16:04           ` Will Deacon
2025-07-04 16:47             ` Jason Gunthorpe [this message]
2025-07-08 12:47               ` Will Deacon
2025-07-04 13:45   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-07-04 14:09   ` David Hildenbrand
2025-06-21  4:21 ` [PATCH v9 4/6] KVM: arm64: New function to determine hardware cache management support ankita
2025-07-04 13:47   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-07-04 14:10   ` David Hildenbrand
2025-06-21  4:21 ` [PATCH v9 5/6] KVM: arm64: Allow cacheable stage 2 mapping using VMA flags ankita
2025-07-04 14:04   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-07-04 14:13     ` David Hildenbrand
2025-07-04 16:51       ` Ankit Agrawal
2025-06-21  4:21 ` [PATCH v9 6/6] KVM: arm64: Expose new KVM cap for cacheable PFNMAP ankita
2025-07-04 13:44   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-07-04 14:15     ` David Hildenbrand
2025-07-04 15:04       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-07-04 16:20         ` Ankit Agrawal
2025-07-04 16:56           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-06-27  5:03 ` [PATCH v9 0/6] KVM: arm64: Map GPU device memory as cacheable Ankit Agrawal
2025-07-02  9:33 ` Ankit Agrawal
2025-07-02 16:51   ` Donald Dutile

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