From: <xu.xin16@zte.com.cn>
To: <xialonglong@kylinos.cn>, <david@redhat.com>
Cc: <david@redhat.com>, <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
<chengming.zhou@linux.dev>, <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
<linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, <shr@devkernel.io>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/1] mm/ksm: add ksm_pages_sharing for each process to calculate profit more accurately
Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2025 17:14:09 +0800 (CST) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <202506181714096412Nvp5B3BkFpi3-CKLQ9ep@zte.com.cn> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <c6c628d9-5908-47f5-83f6-08d1621489fe@kylinos.cn>
> >
> >> and /proc/self/ksm_stat/ to indicate the saved pages of this process.
> >> (not including ksm_zero_pages)
> >
> > Curious, why is updating ksm_process_profit() insufficient and we also
> > have to expose ksm_pages_sharing?
> >
> Since ksm_process_profit() uses ksm_merging_pages(pages_sharing +
> pages_shared) to calculate the profit for individual processes,
>
> while general_profit uses pages_sharing for profit calculation, this can
> lead to the total profit calculated for each process being greater than
> that of general_profit.
>
> Additionally, exposing ksm_pages_sharing under /proc/self/ksm_stat/ may
> be sufficient.
>
Hi,
Althorugh it's true, however, this patch maybe not okay. It can only ensure
that the sum of each process's profit roughly equals the system's general_profit
, but gives totally wrong profit result for some one process. For example, when
two pages from two different processes are merged, one process's page_shared
increments by +1, while the other's pages_sharing increments by +1, which
resulting in different calculated profits for the two processes, even though
their actual profits are identical. If in more extreme cases, this could even
render a process's profit entirely unreadable.
Lastly, do we really need each process’s profit sum to perfectly match the general
profit, or we just want a rough estimate of the process’s profit from KSM ?
>
>
> > Hm, I am wondering if that works. Stable nodes are not per MM, so
> > can't we create an accounting imbalance for one MM somehow?
> >
> > (did not look into all the details, just something that came to mind)
> >
> Indeed, using the method in this patch to calculate ksm_pages_sharing
> for each process to determine ksm_pages_shared
>
> can sometimes result in negative values for ksm_pages_shared.
>
> example for calculate mm->ksm_pages_shared:
>
> if (rmap_item->hlist.next) {
> ksm_pages_sharing--;
> rmap_item->mm->ksm_pages_sharing--;
>
> } else {
> ksm_pages_shared--;
> rmap_item->mm->ksm_pages_shared--; // can be negative
> }
>
> rmap_item->mm->ksm_merging_pages--;
>
>
> Would it be possible to compare the ratio of each process's rmap_item to
> the total rmap_item and the ratio of the process's page_shared to the
> total page_shared
>
> to assess this imbalance? For now, I don't have any better ideas.
Although stable_node is not per-mm, if you really add ksm_shared to mm,
it won't cause negative ksm_pages_shared, because the count of ksm_shared
will only be attributed to the process of the first rmap_item.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-06-18 9:14 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-06-06 7:03 Longlong Xia
2025-06-06 10:08 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-06-18 7:13 ` Longlong Xia
2025-06-18 9:14 ` xu.xin16 [this message]
2025-06-24 8:35 ` Longlong Xia
2025-06-24 9:47 ` 答复: " xu.xin16
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