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From: Barry Song <21cnbao@gmail.com>
To: david@redhat.com
Cc: 21cnbao@gmail.com, aarcange@redhat.com,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, lokeshgidra@google.com, peterx@redhat.com,
	ryncsn@gmail.com, surenb@google.com
Subject: Re: [BUG]userfaultfd_move fails to move a folio when swap-in occurs concurrently with swap-out
Date: Tue, 27 May 2025 20:37:22 +1200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250527083722.27309-1-21cnbao@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAGsJ_4zOhNBe9b1m1LYaJbFur3TdLma+2EXbc=BhAToDeLfvAg@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, May 27, 2025 at 4:17 PM Barry Song <21cnbao@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Tue, May 27, 2025 at 12:39 AM David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com> wrote:
> >
> > On 23.05.25 01:23, Barry Song wrote:
> > > Hi All,
> >
> > Hi!
> >
> > >
> > > I'm encountering another bug that can be easily reproduced using the small
> > > program below[1], which performs swap-out and swap-in in parallel.
> > >
> > > The issue occurs when a folio is being swapped out while it is accessed
> > > concurrently. In this case, do_swap_page() handles the access. However,
> > > because the folio is under writeback, do_swap_page() completely removes
> > > its exclusive attribute.
> > >
> > > do_swap_page:
> > >                 } else if (exclusive && folio_test_writeback(folio) &&
> > >                            data_race(si->flags & SWP_STABLE_WRITES)) {
> > >                          ...
> > >                          exclusive = false;
> > >
> > > As a result, userfaultfd_move() will return -EBUSY, even though the
> > > folio is not shared and is in fact exclusively owned.
> > >
> > >                          folio = vm_normal_folio(src_vma, src_addr,
> > > orig_src_pte);
> > >                          if (!folio || !PageAnonExclusive(&folio->page)) {
> > >                                  spin_unlock(src_ptl);
> > > +                               pr_err("%s %d folio:%lx exclusive:%d
> > > swapcache:%d\n",
> > > +                                       __func__, __LINE__, folio,
> > > PageAnonExclusive(&folio->page),
> > > +                                       folio_test_swapcache(folio));
> > >                                  err = -EBUSY;
> > >                                  goto out;
> > >                          }
> > >
> > > I understand that shared folios should not be moved. However, in this
> > > case, the folio is not shared, yet its exclusive flag is not set.
> > >
> > > Therefore, I believe PageAnonExclusive is not a reliable indicator of
> > > whether a folio is truly exclusive to a process.
> >
> > It is. The flag *not* being set is not a reliable indicator whether it
> > is really shared. ;)
> >
> > The reason why we have this PAE workaround (dropping the flag) in place
> > is because the page must not be written to (SWP_STABLE_WRITES). CoW
> > reuse is not possible.
> >
> > uffd moving that page -- and in that same process setting it writable,
> > see move_present_pte()->pte_mkwrite() -- would be very bad.
>
> An alternative approach is to make the folio writable only when we are
> reasonably certain it is exclusive; otherwise, it remains read-only. If the
> destination is later written to and the folio has become exclusive, it can
> be reused directly. If not, a copy-on-write will occur on the destination
> address, transparently to userspace. This avoids Lokesh’s userspace-based
> strategy, which requires forcing a write to the source address.

Conceptually, I mean something like this:

diff --git a/mm/userfaultfd.c b/mm/userfaultfd.c
index bc473ad21202..70eaabf4f1a3 100644
--- a/mm/userfaultfd.c
+++ b/mm/userfaultfd.c
@@ -1047,7 +1047,8 @@ static int move_present_pte(struct mm_struct *mm,
 	}
 	if (folio_test_large(src_folio) ||
 	    folio_maybe_dma_pinned(src_folio) ||
-	    !PageAnonExclusive(&src_folio->page)) {
+	    (!PageAnonExclusive(&src_folio->page) &&
+	    folio_mapcount(src_folio) != 1)) {
 		err = -EBUSY;
 		goto out;
 	}
@@ -1070,7 +1071,8 @@ static int move_present_pte(struct mm_struct *mm,
 #endif
 	if (pte_dirty(orig_src_pte))
 		orig_dst_pte = pte_mkdirty(orig_dst_pte);
-	orig_dst_pte = pte_mkwrite(orig_dst_pte, dst_vma);
+	if (PageAnonExclusive(&src_folio->page))
+		orig_dst_pte = pte_mkwrite(orig_dst_pte, dst_vma);
 
 	set_pte_at(mm, dst_addr, dst_pte, orig_dst_pte);
 out:
@@ -1268,7 +1270,8 @@ static int move_pages_pte(struct mm_struct *mm, pmd_t *dst_pmd, pmd_t *src_pmd,
 			}
 
 			folio = vm_normal_folio(src_vma, src_addr, orig_src_pte);
-			if (!folio || !PageAnonExclusive(&folio->page)) {
+			if (!folio || (!PageAnonExclusive(&folio->page) &&
+					folio_mapcount(folio) != 1)) {
 				spin_unlock(src_ptl);
 				err = -EBUSY;
 				goto out;

I'm not trying to push this approach—unless Lokesh clearly sees that it  
could reduce userspace noise. I'm mainly just curious how we might make  
the fixup transparent to userspace. :-)


>
> >
> > >
> > > The kernel log output is shown below:
> > > [   23.009516] move_pages_pte 1285 folio:fffffdffc01bba40 exclusive:0
> > > swapcache:1
> > >
> > > I'm still struggling to find a real fix; it seems quite challenging.
> >
> > PAE tells you that you can immediately write to that page without going
> > through CoW. However, here, CoW is required.
> >
> > > Please let me know if you have any ideas. In any case It seems
> > > userspace should fall back to userfaultfd_copy.
> >
> > We could try detecting whether the page is now exclusive, to reset PAE.
> > That will only be possible after writeback completed, so it adds
> > complexity without being able to move the page in all cases (during
> > writeback).
> >
> > Letting userspace deal with that in these rate scenarios is
> > significantly easier.
>
> Right, this appears to introduce the least change—essentially none—to the
> kernel, while shifting more noise to userspace :-)
>
> >
> > --
> > Cheers,
> >
> > David / dhildenb
> >
>

Thanks
Barry


  reply	other threads:[~2025-05-27  8:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-05-22 23:23 Barry Song
2025-05-22 23:43 ` Lokesh Gidra
2025-05-22 23:53   ` Barry Song
2025-05-23  0:03     ` Lokesh Gidra
2025-05-26 12:39 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-05-27  4:17   ` Barry Song
2025-05-27  8:37     ` Barry Song [this message]
2025-05-27  9:00       ` David Hildenbrand
2025-05-27  9:31         ` Barry Song
2025-05-27 11:06           ` David Hildenbrand

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