From: Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
To: Lorenzo Stoakes <lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com>
Cc: Andrei Vagin <avagin@gmail.com>,
David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>, Shuah Khan <shuah@kernel.org>,
Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>,
Kalesh Singh <kaleshsingh@google.com>,
"Liam R . Howlett" <Liam.Howlett@oracle.com>,
Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>,
"Paul E . McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org>,
Jann Horn <jannh@google.com>, Juan Yescas <jyescas@google.com>,
linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-kselftest@vger.kernel.org, linux-api@vger.kernel.org,
criu@lists.linux.dev,
Alexander Mikhalitsyn <aleksandr.mikhalitsyn@canonical.com>,
Pavel Tikhomirov <snorcht@gmail.com>,
Mike Rapoport <mike.rapoport@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] fs/proc/task_mmu: add guard region bit to pagemap
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2025 16:57:02 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <2025031926-engraved-footer-3e9b@gregkh> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <10c3e304-1a6d-45ac-a3ad-7c0c8d00e03f@lucifer.local>
On Wed, Mar 19, 2025 at 07:12:45PM +0000, Lorenzo Stoakes wrote:
> +cc Greg for stable question
>
> On Wed, Mar 19, 2025 at 11:22:40AM -0700, Andrei Vagin wrote:
> > On Mon, Feb 24, 2025 at 2:39 AM David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > On 24.02.25 11:18, Lorenzo Stoakes wrote:
>
> [snip]
> > > >>
> > > >> Acked-by: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
> > > >
> > > > Thanks! :)
> > > >>
> > > >> Something that might be interesting is also extending the PAGEMAP_SCAN
> > > >> ioctl.
> > > >
> > > > Yeah, funny you should mention that, I did see that, but on reading the man
> > > > page it struck me that it requires the region to be uffd afaict? All the
> > > > tests seem to establish uffd, and the man page implies it:
> > > >
> > > > To start tracking the written state (flag) of a page or range of
> > > > memory, the UFFD_FEATURE_WP_ASYNC must be enabled by UFFDIO_API
> > > > ioctl(2) on userfaultfd and memory range must be registered with
> > > > UFFDIO_REGISTER ioctl(2) in UFFDIO_REGISTER_MODE_WP mode.
> > > >
> > > > It would be a bit of a weird edge case to add support there. I was excited
> > > > when I first saw this ioctl, then disappointed afterwards... but maybe I
> > > > got it wrong?
> >
> > > >
> > >
> > > I never managed to review that fully, but I thing that
> > > UFFD_FEATURE_WP_ASYNC thingy is only required for PM_SCAN_CHECK_WPASYNC
> > > and PM_SCAN_WP_MATCHING.
> > >
> > > See pagemap_scan_test_walk().
> > >
> > > I do recall that it works on any VMA.
> > >
> > > Ah yes, tools/testing/selftests/mm/vm_util.c ends up using it for
> > > pagemap_is_swapped() and friends via page_entry_is() to sanity check
> > > that what pagemap gives us is consistent with what pagemap_scan gives us.
> > >
> > > So it should work independent of the uffd magic.
> > > I might be wrong, though ...
> >
> >
> > PAGEMAP_SCAN can work without the UFFD magic. CRIU utilizes PAGEMAP_SCAN
> > as a more efficient alternative to /proc/pid/pagemap:
> > https://github.com/checkpoint-restore/criu/blob/d18912fc88f3dc7bde5fdfa3575691977eb21753/criu/pagemap-cache.c#L178
> >
>
> Yeah we ascertained that - is on my list, LSF coming up next week means we
> aren't great on timing here, but I'll prioritise this. When I'm back.
>
> > For CRIU, obtaining information about guard regions is critical.
> > Without this functionality in the kernel, CRIU is broken. We probably should
> > consider backporting these changes to the 6.13 and 6.14 stable branches.
> >
>
> I'm not sure on precedent for backporting a feature like this - Greg? Am
> happy to do it though.
If it's a regression, sure, we can take it for stable.
> As a stop gap we can backport the pagemap feature if Greg feels this is
> appropriate?
Which do the maintainers of the code feel is appropriate? I'll defer to
them for making that call :)
thanks,
greg k-h
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-03-19 23:58 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-02-21 12:05 [PATCH 0/2] " Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-02-21 12:05 ` [PATCH 1/2] " Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-02-21 17:10 ` Kalesh Singh
2025-02-21 17:45 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-02-24 9:27 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-02-24 10:18 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-02-24 10:37 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-02-24 10:49 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-02-24 13:28 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-03-19 18:22 ` Andrei Vagin
2025-03-19 19:12 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-03-19 23:57 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman [this message]
2025-02-21 12:05 ` [PATCH 2/2] tools/selftests: add guard region test for /proc/$pid/pagemap Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-02-21 13:51 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-02-21 17:14 ` Kalesh Singh
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