linux-mm.kvack.org archive mirror
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: Kees Cook <kees@kernel.org>
To: Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>
Cc: Luis Chamberlain <mcgrof@kernel.org>,
	Petr Pavlu <petr.pavlu@suse.com>,
	Sami Tolvanen <samitolvanen@google.com>,
	Daniel Gomez <da.gomez@samsung.com>,
	Petr Mladek <pmladek@suse.com>,
	Jani Nikula <jani.nikula@intel.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	John Ogness <john.ogness@linutronix.de>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	linux-modules@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] module: Taint the kernel when write-protecting ro_after_init fails
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2025 09:30:28 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <202503120923.199D458CB@keescook> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <c25939c5-d6e8-4450-873b-0a9c774b845b@suse.cz>

On Wed, Mar 12, 2025 at 04:45:24PM +0100, Vlastimil Babka wrote:
> On 3/6/25 17:57, Luis Chamberlain wrote:
> > + linux-mm since we're adding TAINT_BAD_PAGE
> > 
> > On Thu, Mar 06, 2025 at 11:36:55AM +0100, Petr Pavlu wrote:
> >> In the unlikely case that setting ro_after_init data to read-only fails, it
> >> is too late to cancel loading of the module. The loader then issues only
> >> a warning about the situation. Given that this reduces the kernel's
> >> protection, it was suggested to make the failure more visible by tainting
> >> the kernel.
> >> 
> >> Allow TAINT_BAD_PAGE to be set per-module and use it in this case. The flag
> >> is set in similar situations and has the following description in
> >> Documentation/admin-guide/tainted-kernels.rst: "bad page referenced or some
> >> unexpected page flags".
> >> 
> >> Adjust the warning that reports the failure to avoid references to internal
> >> functions and to add information about the kernel being tainted, both to
> >> match the style of other messages in the file. Additionally, merge the
> >> message on a single line because checkpatch.pl recommends that for the
> >> ability to grep for the string.
> >> 
> >> Suggested-by: Kees Cook <kees@kernel.org>
> >> Signed-off-by: Petr Pavlu <petr.pavlu@suse.com>
> >> ---
> >> I opted to use TAINT_BAD_PAGE for now because it seemed unnecessary to me
> >> to introduce a new flag only for this specific case. However, if we end up
> >> similarly checking set_memory_*() in the boot context, a separate flag
> >> would be probably better.
> >> ---
> >>  kernel/module/main.c | 7 ++++---
> >>  kernel/panic.c       | 2 +-
> >>  2 files changed, 5 insertions(+), 4 deletions(-)
> >> 
> >> diff --git a/kernel/module/main.c b/kernel/module/main.c
> >> index 1fb9ad289a6f..8f424a107b92 100644
> >> --- a/kernel/module/main.c
> >> +++ b/kernel/module/main.c
> >> @@ -3030,10 +3030,11 @@ static noinline int do_init_module(struct module *mod)
> >>  	rcu_assign_pointer(mod->kallsyms, &mod->core_kallsyms);
> >>  #endif
> >>  	ret = module_enable_rodata_ro_after_init(mod);
> >> -	if (ret)
> >> -		pr_warn("%s: module_enable_rodata_ro_after_init() returned %d, "
> >> -			"ro_after_init data might still be writable\n",
> >> +	if (ret) {
> >> +		pr_warn("%s: write-protecting ro_after_init data failed with %d, the data might still be writable - tainting kernel\n",
> >>  			mod->name, ret);
> >> +		add_taint_module(mod, TAINT_BAD_PAGE, LOCKDEP_STILL_OK);
> >> +	}
> >>  
> >>  	mod_tree_remove_init(mod);
> >>  	module_arch_freeing_init(mod);
> >> diff --git a/kernel/panic.c b/kernel/panic.c
> >> index d8635d5cecb2..794c443bfb5c 100644
> >> --- a/kernel/panic.c
> >> +++ b/kernel/panic.c
> >> @@ -497,7 +497,7 @@ const struct taint_flag taint_flags[TAINT_FLAGS_COUNT] = {
> >>  	TAINT_FLAG(CPU_OUT_OF_SPEC,		'S', ' ', false),
> >>  	TAINT_FLAG(FORCED_RMMOD,		'R', ' ', false),
> >>  	TAINT_FLAG(MACHINE_CHECK,		'M', ' ', false),
> >> -	TAINT_FLAG(BAD_PAGE,			'B', ' ', false),
> >> +	TAINT_FLAG(BAD_PAGE,			'B', ' ', true),
> >>  	TAINT_FLAG(USER,			'U', ' ', false),
> >>  	TAINT_FLAG(DIE,				'D', ' ', false),
> >>  	TAINT_FLAG(OVERRIDDEN_ACPI_TABLE,	'A', ' ', false),
> > 
> > Reviewed-by: Luis Chamberlain <mcgrof@kernel.org>
> > 
> > For our needs this makes sense, however I am curious if TAINT_BAD_PAGE
> > is too broadly generic, and also if we're going to add it, if there are
> > other mm uses for such a thing.
> 
> I'm not sure BAD_PAGE is a good fit. If there was a new flag that meant "a
> hardening measure failed", would that have other possible uses? The
> semantics would be that the kernel self-protection was weakened wrt
> expectations, even if not yet a corruption due to attack would be detected.
> Some admins could opt-in to panic in such case anyway, etc. Any other
> hardening features where such "failure to harden" is possible and could use
> this too? Kees?

Yeah, it could certainly be used. The direction the hardening stuff has
taken is to use WARN() (as Linus requires no direct BUG() usage), and to
recommend that end users tune their warn_limit sysctl as needed.

Being able to TAINT might be useful, but I don't have any places that
immediately come to mind that seem appropriate for it (besides this
case). Hm, well, maybe in the case of a W^X test failure? (I note that
this is also a "safe memory permission" failure...)

How about TAINT_WEAKENED_PROTECTION ? Or something that carries that
idea?

-Kees

-- 
Kees Cook


  reply	other threads:[~2025-03-12 16:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20250306103712.29549-1-petr.pavlu@suse.com>
2025-03-06 16:57 ` Luis Chamberlain
2025-03-12 15:45   ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-03-12 16:30     ` Kees Cook [this message]
2025-03-12 17:38       ` Luis Chamberlain
2025-03-14 16:48       ` Christophe Leroy
2025-03-14 19:19         ` Kees Cook

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=202503120923.199D458CB@keescook \
    --to=kees@kernel.org \
    --cc=akpm@linux-foundation.org \
    --cc=da.gomez@samsung.com \
    --cc=gregkh@linuxfoundation.org \
    --cc=jani.nikula@intel.com \
    --cc=john.ogness@linutronix.de \
    --cc=linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=linux-mm@kvack.org \
    --cc=linux-modules@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=mcgrof@kernel.org \
    --cc=petr.pavlu@suse.com \
    --cc=pmladek@suse.com \
    --cc=samitolvanen@google.com \
    --cc=vbabka@suse.cz \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox