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From: Yazen Ghannam <yazen.ghannam@amd.com>
To: "Luck, Tony" <tony.luck@intel.com>
Cc: Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
	Shuai Xue <xueshuai@linux.alibaba.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 2/5] x86/mce: dump error msg from severities
Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2025 13:08:41 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250303180841.GA1520489@yaz-khff2.amd.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <SJ1PR11MB6083697C08D8B6B8BFD3CC98FCC92@SJ1PR11MB6083.namprd11.prod.outlook.com>

On Mon, Mar 03, 2025 at 04:49:25PM +0000, Luck, Tony wrote:
> > The error context is in the behavior of the hw. If the error is fatal, you
> > won't see it - the machine will panic or do something else to prevent error
> > propagation. It definitely won't run any software anymore.
> >
> > If you see the error getting logged, it means it is not fatal enough to kill
> > the machine.
> 
> One place in the fatal case where I would like to see more information is the
> 
>   "Action required: data load in error *UN*recoverable area of kernel"
> 
> [emphasis on the "UN" added].
> 
> case.  We have a few places where the kernel does recover. And most places
> we crash. Our code for the recoverable cases is fragile. Most of this series is
> about repairing regressions where we used to recover from places where kernel
> is doing get_user() or copy_from_user() which can be recovered if those places
> get an error return and the kernel kills the process instead of crashing.
> 
> A long time ago I posted some patches to include a stack trace for this type
> of crash. It didn't make it into the kernel, and I got distracted by other things.
> 
> If we had that, it would have been easier to diagnose this regression (Shaui
> Xie would have seen crashes with a stack trace pointing to code that used
> to recover in older kernels). Folks with big clusters would also be able to
> point out other places where the kernel crashes often enough that additional
> EXTABLE recovery paths would be worth investigating.
> 
> So:
> 
> 1) We need to fix the regressions. That just needs new commit messages
> for these patches that explain the issue better.
> 
> 2) I'd like to see a patch for a stack trace for the unrecoverable case.
> 
> 3) I don't see much value in a message that reports the recoverable case.
> 
> Yazen: At one point I think you said you were looking at adding additional
> decorations to the return value from mce_severity() to indicate actions
> needed for recoverable errors (kill the process, offline the page) rather
> than have do_machine_check() figure it out by looking at various fields
> in the "struct mce". Did that go anywhere? Those extra details might be
> interesting in the tracepoint.
> 

Hi Tony,

Yes, I have a patch here:
https://github.com/AMDESE/linux/commit/cf0b8a97240abf0fbd98a91cd8deb262f827721b

Branch:
https://github.com/AMDESE/linux/commits/wip-mca/

This work is at the tail-end of a lot of other refactoring. But it can
be prioritized if there's interest. Most of the dependencies have
already been merged.

Thanks,
Yazen


  reply	other threads:[~2025-03-03 18:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-02-17  6:33 [PATCH v2 0/5] mm/hwpoison: Fix regressions in memory failure handling Shuai Xue
2025-02-17  6:33 ` [PATCH v2 1/5] x86/mce: Collect error message for severities below MCE_PANIC_SEVERITY Shuai Xue
2025-02-18  7:58   ` Borislav Petkov
2025-02-18  9:39     ` Shuai Xue
2025-02-18  9:50       ` Borislav Petkov
2025-02-17  6:33 ` [PATCH v2 2/5] x86/mce: dump error msg from severities Shuai Xue
2025-02-28 12:37   ` Borislav Petkov
2025-03-01  6:16     ` Shuai Xue
2025-03-01 11:10       ` Borislav Petkov
2025-03-01 14:03         ` Shuai Xue
2025-03-01 18:47           ` Borislav Petkov
2025-03-02  7:14             ` Shuai Xue
2025-03-02  7:37               ` Borislav Petkov
2025-03-02  9:13                 ` Shuai Xue
2025-03-03 16:49             ` Luck, Tony
2025-03-03 18:08               ` Yazen Ghannam [this message]
2025-03-05  1:50               ` Shuai Xue
2025-03-05 16:16                 ` Luck, Tony
2025-03-05 22:33                   ` Luck, Tony
2025-03-06 15:58                     ` Yazen Ghannam
2025-02-17  6:33 ` [PATCH v2 3/5] x86/mce: add EX_TYPE_EFAULT_REG as in-kernel recovery context to fix copy-from-user operations regression Shuai Xue
2025-02-18 12:54   ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-02-18 13:02     ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-02-18 14:03       ` Shuai Xue
2025-02-18 13:28     ` Shuai Xue
2025-02-18 14:15       ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-02-18 16:48         ` Borislav Petkov
2025-02-19 10:40           ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-02-21  6:52             ` Shuai Xue
2025-02-17  6:33 ` [PATCH v2 4/5] mm/hwpoison: Fix incorrect "not recovered" report for recovered clean pages Shuai Xue
2025-02-19  6:34   ` Miaohe Lin
2025-02-19  8:54     ` Shuai Xue
2025-02-19 17:15       ` Luck, Tony
2025-02-20  1:16         ` Miaohe Lin
2025-02-17  6:33 ` [PATCH v2 5/5] mm: memory-failure: move return value documentation to function declaration Shuai Xue
2025-02-19  6:31   ` Miaohe Lin
2025-02-18  3:29 ` [PATCH v2 0/5] mm/hwpoison: Fix regressions in memory failure handling Andrew Morton
2025-02-18  8:03   ` Borislav Petkov
2025-02-18  8:27 ` Borislav Petkov
2025-02-18 11:31   ` Shuai Xue
2025-02-18 12:24     ` Borislav Petkov
2025-02-18 13:08       ` Shuai Xue
2025-02-18 13:17         ` Borislav Petkov
2025-02-18 13:53           ` Shuai Xue
2025-02-18 15:31             ` Borislav Petkov
2025-02-19  7:13               ` Shuai Xue
2025-02-18 17:59         ` Luck, Tony
2025-02-19  6:04           ` Shuai Xue
2025-02-18 17:30       ` Luck, Tony
2025-02-19  8:10         ` Borislav Petkov
2025-02-19 17:11           ` Luck, Tony
2025-02-20 11:19             ` Borislav Petkov
2025-02-20 17:50               ` Luck, Tony
2025-02-21  6:05                 ` Shuai Xue
2025-02-24 22:01                   ` Borislav Petkov
2025-02-25  1:51                     ` Shuai Xue
2025-02-28 12:35                       ` Borislav Petkov
2025-03-01  5:54                         ` Shuai Xue
2025-02-24 21:50                 ` Borislav Petkov

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