From: Yazen Ghannam <yazen.ghannam@amd.com>
To: "Luck, Tony" <tony.luck@intel.com>
Cc: Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
Shuai Xue <xueshuai@linux.alibaba.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 2/5] x86/mce: dump error msg from severities
Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2025 13:08:41 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250303180841.GA1520489@yaz-khff2.amd.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <SJ1PR11MB6083697C08D8B6B8BFD3CC98FCC92@SJ1PR11MB6083.namprd11.prod.outlook.com>
On Mon, Mar 03, 2025 at 04:49:25PM +0000, Luck, Tony wrote:
> > The error context is in the behavior of the hw. If the error is fatal, you
> > won't see it - the machine will panic or do something else to prevent error
> > propagation. It definitely won't run any software anymore.
> >
> > If you see the error getting logged, it means it is not fatal enough to kill
> > the machine.
>
> One place in the fatal case where I would like to see more information is the
>
> "Action required: data load in error *UN*recoverable area of kernel"
>
> [emphasis on the "UN" added].
>
> case. We have a few places where the kernel does recover. And most places
> we crash. Our code for the recoverable cases is fragile. Most of this series is
> about repairing regressions where we used to recover from places where kernel
> is doing get_user() or copy_from_user() which can be recovered if those places
> get an error return and the kernel kills the process instead of crashing.
>
> A long time ago I posted some patches to include a stack trace for this type
> of crash. It didn't make it into the kernel, and I got distracted by other things.
>
> If we had that, it would have been easier to diagnose this regression (Shaui
> Xie would have seen crashes with a stack trace pointing to code that used
> to recover in older kernels). Folks with big clusters would also be able to
> point out other places where the kernel crashes often enough that additional
> EXTABLE recovery paths would be worth investigating.
>
> So:
>
> 1) We need to fix the regressions. That just needs new commit messages
> for these patches that explain the issue better.
>
> 2) I'd like to see a patch for a stack trace for the unrecoverable case.
>
> 3) I don't see much value in a message that reports the recoverable case.
>
> Yazen: At one point I think you said you were looking at adding additional
> decorations to the return value from mce_severity() to indicate actions
> needed for recoverable errors (kill the process, offline the page) rather
> than have do_machine_check() figure it out by looking at various fields
> in the "struct mce". Did that go anywhere? Those extra details might be
> interesting in the tracepoint.
>
Hi Tony,
Yes, I have a patch here:
https://github.com/AMDESE/linux/commit/cf0b8a97240abf0fbd98a91cd8deb262f827721b
Branch:
https://github.com/AMDESE/linux/commits/wip-mca/
This work is at the tail-end of a lot of other refactoring. But it can
be prioritized if there's interest. Most of the dependencies have
already been merged.
Thanks,
Yazen
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-03-03 18:09 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-02-17 6:33 [PATCH v2 0/5] mm/hwpoison: Fix regressions in memory failure handling Shuai Xue
2025-02-17 6:33 ` [PATCH v2 1/5] x86/mce: Collect error message for severities below MCE_PANIC_SEVERITY Shuai Xue
2025-02-18 7:58 ` Borislav Petkov
2025-02-18 9:39 ` Shuai Xue
2025-02-18 9:50 ` Borislav Petkov
2025-02-17 6:33 ` [PATCH v2 2/5] x86/mce: dump error msg from severities Shuai Xue
2025-02-28 12:37 ` Borislav Petkov
2025-03-01 6:16 ` Shuai Xue
2025-03-01 11:10 ` Borislav Petkov
2025-03-01 14:03 ` Shuai Xue
2025-03-01 18:47 ` Borislav Petkov
2025-03-02 7:14 ` Shuai Xue
2025-03-02 7:37 ` Borislav Petkov
2025-03-02 9:13 ` Shuai Xue
2025-03-03 16:49 ` Luck, Tony
2025-03-03 18:08 ` Yazen Ghannam [this message]
2025-03-05 1:50 ` Shuai Xue
2025-03-05 16:16 ` Luck, Tony
2025-03-05 22:33 ` Luck, Tony
2025-03-06 15:58 ` Yazen Ghannam
2025-02-17 6:33 ` [PATCH v2 3/5] x86/mce: add EX_TYPE_EFAULT_REG as in-kernel recovery context to fix copy-from-user operations regression Shuai Xue
2025-02-18 12:54 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-02-18 13:02 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-02-18 14:03 ` Shuai Xue
2025-02-18 13:28 ` Shuai Xue
2025-02-18 14:15 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-02-18 16:48 ` Borislav Petkov
2025-02-19 10:40 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-02-21 6:52 ` Shuai Xue
2025-02-17 6:33 ` [PATCH v2 4/5] mm/hwpoison: Fix incorrect "not recovered" report for recovered clean pages Shuai Xue
2025-02-19 6:34 ` Miaohe Lin
2025-02-19 8:54 ` Shuai Xue
2025-02-19 17:15 ` Luck, Tony
2025-02-20 1:16 ` Miaohe Lin
2025-02-17 6:33 ` [PATCH v2 5/5] mm: memory-failure: move return value documentation to function declaration Shuai Xue
2025-02-19 6:31 ` Miaohe Lin
2025-02-18 3:29 ` [PATCH v2 0/5] mm/hwpoison: Fix regressions in memory failure handling Andrew Morton
2025-02-18 8:03 ` Borislav Petkov
2025-02-18 8:27 ` Borislav Petkov
2025-02-18 11:31 ` Shuai Xue
2025-02-18 12:24 ` Borislav Petkov
2025-02-18 13:08 ` Shuai Xue
2025-02-18 13:17 ` Borislav Petkov
2025-02-18 13:53 ` Shuai Xue
2025-02-18 15:31 ` Borislav Petkov
2025-02-19 7:13 ` Shuai Xue
2025-02-18 17:59 ` Luck, Tony
2025-02-19 6:04 ` Shuai Xue
2025-02-18 17:30 ` Luck, Tony
2025-02-19 8:10 ` Borislav Petkov
2025-02-19 17:11 ` Luck, Tony
2025-02-20 11:19 ` Borislav Petkov
2025-02-20 17:50 ` Luck, Tony
2025-02-21 6:05 ` Shuai Xue
2025-02-24 22:01 ` Borislav Petkov
2025-02-25 1:51 ` Shuai Xue
2025-02-28 12:35 ` Borislav Petkov
2025-03-01 5:54 ` Shuai Xue
2025-02-24 21:50 ` Borislav Petkov
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