From: Sebastian Andrzej Siewior <bigeasy@linutronix.de>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
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Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH 1/2] sched: Extended scheduler time slice
Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2025 14:53:53 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250206135353.i1tp4vDv@linutronix.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250206134859.GP7145@noisy.programming.kicks-ass.net>
On 2025-02-06 14:48:59 [+0100], Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 06, 2025 at 02:44:08PM +0100, Sebastian Andrzej Siewior wrote:
> > SCHED_OTHER vs SCHED_OTHER after all. But please don't delay a wakeup of
> > SCHED_FIFO/ RR/ DL because of this LAZY hint.
>
> Thing will get delayed if interrupts are disabled or kernel has
> preemption disabled too. So as long as we ensure hint crap is of equal
> order, nothing cares if you do.
>
> If you can't tell the difference between task does hint crap in
> userspace and task is in the middle of syscall, you can't tell the
> difference.
I can tell the difference if I see a trace where an interrupt fires,
performs a wakeup and the SCHED_OTHER task remains on CPU while the task
SCHED_FIFO task sits on the runqueue until a timer fires.
Sebastian
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-02-06 13:59 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 66+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-01-31 22:58 [RFC][PATCH 0/2] sched: Extended Scheduler Time Slice revisited Steven Rostedt
2025-01-31 22:58 ` [RFC][PATCH 1/2] sched: Extended scheduler time slice Steven Rostedt
2025-02-01 11:59 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-02-01 12:47 ` Steven Rostedt
2025-02-01 18:11 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-02-01 23:06 ` Steven Rostedt
2025-02-03 8:43 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-02-03 8:53 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-02-03 16:45 ` Steven Rostedt
2025-02-04 3:28 ` Suleiman Souhlal
2025-02-04 3:57 ` Steven Rostedt
2025-02-04 9:16 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-02-04 12:51 ` Steven Rostedt
2025-02-04 13:16 ` Steven Rostedt
2025-02-04 15:05 ` Steven Rostedt
2025-02-04 15:30 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-02-04 16:11 ` Steven Rostedt
2025-02-05 9:07 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-02-05 13:10 ` Steven Rostedt
2025-02-05 13:44 ` Steven Rostedt
2025-02-04 22:44 ` Prakash Sangappa
2025-02-05 0:56 ` Joel Fernandes
2025-02-05 3:04 ` Steven Rostedt
2025-02-05 5:09 ` Joel Fernandes
2025-02-05 13:16 ` Steven Rostedt
2025-02-05 13:38 ` Steven Rostedt
2025-02-05 21:08 ` Prakash Sangappa
2025-02-05 21:19 ` Steven Rostedt
2025-02-05 21:33 ` Steven Rostedt
2025-02-05 21:36 ` Prakash Sangappa
2025-02-06 3:07 ` Joel Fernandes
2025-02-06 13:30 ` Steven Rostedt
2025-02-06 13:44 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2025-02-06 13:48 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-02-06 13:53 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior [this message]
2025-02-06 13:57 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-02-06 14:20 ` Steven Rostedt
2025-02-06 14:22 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2025-02-06 14:27 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-02-06 14:57 ` Steven Rostedt
2025-02-06 15:01 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2025-02-10 19:43 ` Steven Rostedt
2025-02-10 22:04 ` David Laight
2025-02-10 22:15 ` Steven Rostedt
2025-02-11 8:21 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2025-02-11 10:57 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-02-11 15:28 ` Steven Rostedt
2025-02-12 12:11 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2025-02-12 15:00 ` Steven Rostedt
2025-02-12 15:18 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2025-02-10 14:07 ` Joel Fernandes
2025-02-10 19:48 ` Steven Rostedt
2025-02-10 17:20 ` David Laight
2025-02-10 17:27 ` Steven Rostedt
2025-02-10 19:44 ` Steven Rostedt
2025-02-10 21:51 ` David Laight
2025-02-10 21:58 ` Steven Rostedt
2025-02-01 14:35 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2025-02-01 23:08 ` Steven Rostedt
2025-02-01 23:18 ` Linus Torvalds
2025-02-01 23:35 ` Linus Torvalds
2025-02-02 3:26 ` Steven Rostedt
2025-02-02 3:22 ` Steven Rostedt
2025-02-02 7:22 ` Matthew Wilcox
2025-02-02 22:29 ` Steven Rostedt
2025-01-31 22:58 ` [RFC][PATCH 2/2] sched: Shorten time that tasks can extend their time slice for Steven Rostedt
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