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From: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
To: Prakash Sangappa <prakash.sangappa@oracle.com>
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Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH 1/2] sched: Extended scheduler time slice
Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2025 16:19:45 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250205161945.44daf018@gandalf.local.home> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1A67C4F1-F07E-477C-9781-071546AE3A8B@oracle.com>

On Wed, 5 Feb 2025 21:08:47 +0000
Prakash Sangappa <prakash.sangappa@oracle.com> wrote:

> The new syscall/API proposed was to provide per thread shared mapped 
> area(shared structure) that are allocated from memory pages that are pinned. 
> So the kernel could access it without the need for a copyin/copyout. 
> 
> The idea is that it would be helpful in places where we cannot take a page 
> fault in the kernel codepath.

What places do we need to decided this in a critical path? If we follow my
proposal, where we set NEED_RESCHED_LAZY on sched_tick when it interrupts
user space, then it should all work out.

I agree with Peter about not caring about system calls. If you can do a
system call in a critical path, then just use futexes.

The only reason I support system calls is for debugging. That's because I
write into the trace_marker from user space to see if things are working,
and that requires a system call. But once things are working, I'll make it
not work for system calls too.

-- Steve


  reply	other threads:[~2025-02-05 21:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 66+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-01-31 22:58 [RFC][PATCH 0/2] sched: Extended Scheduler Time Slice revisited Steven Rostedt
2025-01-31 22:58 ` [RFC][PATCH 1/2] sched: Extended scheduler time slice Steven Rostedt
2025-02-01 11:59   ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-02-01 12:47     ` Steven Rostedt
2025-02-01 18:11       ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-02-01 23:06         ` Steven Rostedt
2025-02-03  8:43           ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-02-03  8:53             ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-02-03 16:45             ` Steven Rostedt
2025-02-04  3:28               ` Suleiman Souhlal
2025-02-04  3:57                 ` Steven Rostedt
2025-02-04  9:16               ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-02-04 12:51                 ` Steven Rostedt
2025-02-04 13:16                   ` Steven Rostedt
2025-02-04 15:05                     ` Steven Rostedt
2025-02-04 15:30                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-02-04 16:11                     ` Steven Rostedt
2025-02-05  9:07                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-02-05 13:10                         ` Steven Rostedt
2025-02-05 13:44                           ` Steven Rostedt
2025-02-04 22:44         ` Prakash Sangappa
2025-02-05  0:56           ` Joel Fernandes
2025-02-05  3:04             ` Steven Rostedt
2025-02-05  5:09               ` Joel Fernandes
2025-02-05 13:16                 ` Steven Rostedt
2025-02-05 13:38                   ` Steven Rostedt
2025-02-05 21:08                   ` Prakash Sangappa
2025-02-05 21:19                     ` Steven Rostedt [this message]
2025-02-05 21:33                       ` Steven Rostedt
2025-02-05 21:36                         ` Prakash Sangappa
2025-02-06  3:07                   ` Joel Fernandes
2025-02-06 13:30                     ` Steven Rostedt
2025-02-06 13:44                       ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2025-02-06 13:48                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-02-06 13:53                           ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2025-02-06 13:57                             ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-02-06 14:20                               ` Steven Rostedt
2025-02-06 14:22                               ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2025-02-06 14:27                                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-02-06 14:57                                   ` Steven Rostedt
2025-02-06 15:01                                   ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2025-02-10 19:43                         ` Steven Rostedt
2025-02-10 22:04                           ` David Laight
2025-02-10 22:15                             ` Steven Rostedt
2025-02-11  8:21                           ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2025-02-11 10:57                             ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-02-11 15:28                             ` Steven Rostedt
2025-02-12 12:11                               ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2025-02-12 15:00                                 ` Steven Rostedt
2025-02-12 15:18                                   ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2025-02-10 14:07                       ` Joel Fernandes
2025-02-10 19:48                         ` Steven Rostedt
2025-02-10 17:20                       ` David Laight
2025-02-10 17:27                         ` Steven Rostedt
2025-02-10 19:44                           ` Steven Rostedt
2025-02-10 21:51                             ` David Laight
2025-02-10 21:58                               ` Steven Rostedt
2025-02-01 14:35   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2025-02-01 23:08     ` Steven Rostedt
2025-02-01 23:18       ` Linus Torvalds
2025-02-01 23:35         ` Linus Torvalds
2025-02-02  3:26           ` Steven Rostedt
2025-02-02  3:22         ` Steven Rostedt
2025-02-02  7:22           ` Matthew Wilcox
2025-02-02 22:29             ` Steven Rostedt
2025-01-31 22:58 ` [RFC][PATCH 2/2] sched: Shorten time that tasks can extend their time slice for Steven Rostedt

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