From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca>
To: "Thomas Hellström" <thomas.hellstrom@linux.intel.com>,
"Yonatan Maman" <ymaman@nvidia.com>,
kherbst@redhat.com, lyude@redhat.com, dakr@redhat.com,
airlied@gmail.com, simona@ffwll.ch, leon@kernel.org,
jglisse@redhat.com, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
GalShalom@nvidia.com, dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org,
nouveau@lists.freedesktop.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-rdma@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
linux-tegra@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC 1/5] mm/hmm: HMM API to enable P2P DMA for device private pages
Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2025 09:47:57 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250129134757.GA2120662@ziepe.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Z5ovcnX2zVoqdomA@phenom.ffwll.local>
On Wed, Jan 29, 2025 at 02:38:58PM +0100, Simona Vetter wrote:
> > The pgmap->owner doesn't *have* to fixed, certainly during early boot before
> > you hand out any page references it can be changed. I wouldn't be
> > surprised if this is useful to some requirements to build up the
> > private interconnect topology?
>
> The trouble I'm seeing is device probe and the fundemantal issue that you
> never know when you're done. And so if we entirely rely on pgmap->owner to
> figure out the driver private interconnect topology, that's going to be
> messy. That's why I'm also leaning towards both comparing owners and
> having an additional check whether the interconnect is actually there or
> not yet.
Hoenstely, I'd rather invest more effort into being able to update
owner for those special corner cases than to slow down the fast path
in hmm_range_fault..
The notion is that owner should represent a contiguous region of
connectivity. IMHO you can always create this, but I suppose there
could be corner cases where you need to split/merge owners.
But again, this isn't set in stone, if someone has a better way to
match the private interconnects without going to driver callbacks then
try that too.
I think driver callbacks inside hmm_range_fault should be the last resort..
> You can fake that by doing these checks after hmm_range_fault returned,
> and if you get a bunch of unsuitable pages, toss it back to
> hmm_range_fault asking for an unconditional migration to system memory for
> those. But that's kinda not great and I think goes at least against the
> spirit of how you want to handle pci p2p in step 2 below?
Right, hmm_range_fault should return pages that can be used and you
should not call it twice.
Jason
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-01-29 13:48 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-12-01 10:36 [RFC 0/5] GPU Direct RDMA (P2P DMA) for Device Private Pages Yonatan Maman
2024-12-01 10:36 ` [RFC 1/5] mm/hmm: HMM API to enable P2P DMA for device private pages Yonatan Maman
2025-01-28 8:51 ` Thomas Hellström
2025-01-28 13:20 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-01-28 14:48 ` Thomas Hellström
2025-01-28 15:16 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-01-28 16:32 ` Thomas Hellström
2025-01-28 17:21 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-01-29 13:38 ` Simona Vetter
2025-01-29 13:47 ` Jason Gunthorpe [this message]
2025-01-29 17:09 ` Thomas Hellström
2025-01-30 10:50 ` Simona Vetter
2025-01-30 13:23 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-01-30 16:09 ` Simona Vetter
2025-01-30 17:42 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-01-31 16:59 ` Simona Vetter
2025-02-03 15:08 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-02-04 9:32 ` Thomas Hellström
2025-02-04 13:26 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-02-04 14:29 ` Thomas Hellström
2025-02-04 19:16 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-02-04 22:01 ` Thomas Hellström
2024-12-01 10:36 ` [RFC 2/5] nouveau/dmem: HMM P2P DMA for private dev pages Yonatan Maman
2024-12-01 10:36 ` [RFC 3/5] IB/core: P2P DMA for device private pages Yonatan Maman
2024-12-01 10:36 ` [RFC 4/5] RDMA/mlx5: Add fallback for P2P DMA errors Yonatan Maman
2024-12-01 10:36 ` [RFC 5/5] RDMA/mlx5: Enabling ATS for ODP memory Yonatan Maman
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