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From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca>
To: "Thomas Hellström" <thomas.hellstrom@linux.intel.com>
Cc: Yonatan Maman <ymaman@nvidia.com>,
	kherbst@redhat.com, lyude@redhat.com, dakr@redhat.com,
	airlied@gmail.com, simona@ffwll.ch, leon@kernel.org,
	jglisse@redhat.com, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
	GalShalom@nvidia.com, dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org,
	nouveau@lists.freedesktop.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-rdma@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	linux-tegra@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC 1/5] mm/hmm: HMM API to enable P2P DMA for device private pages
Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2025 13:21:23 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250128172123.GD1524382@ziepe.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <b78d32e13811ef1fa57b0535749c811f2afb4dcd.camel@linux.intel.com>

On Tue, Jan 28, 2025 at 05:32:23PM +0100, Thomas Hellström wrote:
> > This series supports three case:
> > 
> >  1) pgmap->owner == range->dev_private_owner
> >     This is "driver private fast interconnect" in this case HMM
> > should
> >     immediately return the page. The calling driver understands the
> >     private parts of the pgmap and computes the private interconnect
> >     address.
> > 
> >     This requires organizing your driver so that all private
> >     interconnect has the same pgmap->owner.
> 
> Yes, although that makes this map static, since pgmap->owner has to be
> set at pgmap creation time. and we were during initial discussions
> looking at something dynamic here. However I think we can probably do
> with a per-driver owner for now and get back if that's not sufficient.

The pgmap->owner doesn't *have* to fixed, certainly during early boot before
you hand out any page references it can be changed. I wouldn't be
surprised if this is useful to some requirements to build up the
private interconnect topology?

> >  2) The page is DEVICE_PRIVATE and get_dma_pfn_for_device() exists.
> >     The exporting driver has the option to return a P2P struct page
> >     that can be used for PCI P2P without any migration. In a PCI GPU
> >     context this means the GPU has mapped its local memory to a PCI
> >     address. The assumption is that P2P always works and so this
> >     address can be DMA'd from.
> 
> So do I understand it correctly, that the driver then needs to set up
> one device_private struct page and one pcie_p2p struct page for each
> page of device memory participating in this way?

Yes, for now. I hope to remove the p2p page eventually.

> > If you are just talking about your private multi-path, then that is
> > already handled..
> 
> No, the issue I'm having with this is really why would
> hmm_range_fault() need the new pfn when it could easily be obtained
> from the device-private pfn by the hmm_range_fault() caller? 

That isn't the API of HMM, the caller uses hmm to get PFNs it can use.

Deliberately returning PFNs the caller cannot use is nonsensical to
it's purpose :)

> So anyway what we'll do is to try to use an interconnect-common owner
> for now and revisit the problem if that's not sufficient so we can come
> up with an acceptable solution.

That is the intention for sure. The idea was that the drivers under
the private pages would somehow generate unique owners for shared
private interconnect segments.

I wouldn't say this is the end all of the idea, if there are better
ways to handle accepting private pages they can certainly be
explored..

Jason


  reply	other threads:[~2025-01-28 17:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-12-01 10:36 [RFC 0/5] GPU Direct RDMA (P2P DMA) for Device Private Pages Yonatan Maman
2024-12-01 10:36 ` [RFC 1/5] mm/hmm: HMM API to enable P2P DMA for device private pages Yonatan Maman
2025-01-28  8:51   ` Thomas Hellström
2025-01-28 13:20     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-01-28 14:48       ` Thomas Hellström
2025-01-28 15:16         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-01-28 16:32           ` Thomas Hellström
2025-01-28 17:21             ` Jason Gunthorpe [this message]
2025-01-29 13:38               ` Simona Vetter
2025-01-29 13:47                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-01-29 17:09                   ` Thomas Hellström
2025-01-30 10:50                   ` Simona Vetter
2025-01-30 13:23                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-01-30 16:09                       ` Simona Vetter
2025-01-30 17:42                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-01-31 16:59                           ` Simona Vetter
2025-02-03 15:08                             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-02-04  9:32                               ` Thomas Hellström
2025-02-04 13:26                                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-02-04 14:29                                   ` Thomas Hellström
2025-02-04 19:16                                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-02-04 22:01                                       ` Thomas Hellström
2024-12-01 10:36 ` [RFC 2/5] nouveau/dmem: HMM P2P DMA for private dev pages Yonatan Maman
2024-12-01 10:36 ` [RFC 3/5] IB/core: P2P DMA for device private pages Yonatan Maman
2024-12-01 10:36 ` [RFC 4/5] RDMA/mlx5: Add fallback for P2P DMA errors Yonatan Maman
2024-12-01 10:36 ` [RFC 5/5] RDMA/mlx5: Enabling ATS for ODP memory Yonatan Maman

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