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From: Christian Brauner <brauner@kernel.org>
To: Andrii Nakryiko <andrii.nakryiko@gmail.com>
Cc: Kees Cook <kees@kernel.org>,
	Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>,
	 Andrii Nakryiko <andrii@kernel.org>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
	 linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,  bpf@vger.kernel.org,
	kernel-team@meta.com, rostedt@goodmis.org, peterz@infradead.org,
	 mingo@kernel.org, linux-trace-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	 linux-perf-users@vger.kernel.org, shakeel.butt@linux.dev,
	rppt@kernel.org, liam.howlett@oracle.com,
	 Jann Horn <jannh@google.com>,
	linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm,procfs: allow read-only remote mm access under CAP_PERFMON
Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2025 10:38:49 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250124-hermachen-truthahn-f0ba886b6ae7@brauner> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAEf4BzbYBw3kzWyyG42VZSKh8MX+Xfqa1B_TRRN4p35_C9xZmw@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Jan 23, 2025 at 04:59:38PM -0800, Andrii Nakryiko wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 23, 2025 at 3:47 PM Kees Cook <kees@kernel.org> wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, Jan 23, 2025 at 01:52:52PM -0800, Suren Baghdasaryan wrote:
> > > On Thu, Jan 23, 2025 at 1:44 PM Andrii Nakryiko <andrii@kernel.org> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > It's very common for various tracing and profiling toolis to need to
> > > > access /proc/PID/maps contents for stack symbolization needs to learn
> > > > which shared libraries are mapped in memory, at which file offset, etc.
> > > > Currently, access to /proc/PID/maps requires CAP_SYS_PTRACE (unless we
> > > > are looking at data for our own process, which is a trivial case not too
> > > > relevant for profilers use cases).
> > > >
> > > > Unfortunately, CAP_SYS_PTRACE implies way more than just ability to
> > > > discover memory layout of another process: it allows to fully control
> > > > arbitrary other processes. This is problematic from security POV for
> > > > applications that only need read-only /proc/PID/maps (and other similar
> > > > read-only data) access, and in large production settings CAP_SYS_PTRACE
> > > > is frowned upon even for the system-wide profilers.
> > > >
> > > > On the other hand, it's already possible to access similar kind of
> > > > information (and more) with just CAP_PERFMON capability. E.g., setting
> > > > up PERF_RECORD_MMAP collection through perf_event_open() would give one
> > > > similar information to what /proc/PID/maps provides.
> > > >
> > > > CAP_PERFMON, together with CAP_BPF, is already a very common combination
> > > > for system-wide profiling and observability application. As such, it's
> > > > reasonable and convenient to be able to access /proc/PID/maps with
> > > > CAP_PERFMON capabilities instead of CAP_SYS_PTRACE.
> > > >
> > > > For procfs, these permissions are checked through common mm_access()
> > > > helper, and so we augment that with cap_perfmon() check *only* if
> > > > requested mode is PTRACE_MODE_READ. I.e., PTRACE_MODE_ATTACH wouldn't be
> > > > permitted by CAP_PERFMON.
> > > >
> > > > Besides procfs itself, mm_access() is used by process_madvise() and
> > > > process_vm_{readv,writev}() syscalls. The former one uses
> > > > PTRACE_MODE_READ to avoid leaking ASLR metadata, and as such CAP_PERFMON
> > > > seems like a meaningful allowable capability as well.
> > > >
> > > > process_vm_{readv,writev} currently assume PTRACE_MODE_ATTACH level of
> > > > permissions (though for readv PTRACE_MODE_READ seems more reasonable,
> > > > but that's outside the scope of this change), and as such won't be
> > > > affected by this patch.
> > >
> > > CC'ing Jann and Kees.
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Signed-off-by: Andrii Nakryiko <andrii@kernel.org>
> > > > ---
> > > >  kernel/fork.c | 11 ++++++++++-
> > > >  1 file changed, 10 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
> > > >
> > > > diff --git a/kernel/fork.c b/kernel/fork.c
> > > > index ded49f18cd95..c57cb3ad9931 100644
> > > > --- a/kernel/fork.c
> > > > +++ b/kernel/fork.c
> > > > @@ -1547,6 +1547,15 @@ struct mm_struct *get_task_mm(struct task_struct *task)
> > > >  }
> > > >  EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL(get_task_mm);
> > > >
> > > > +static bool can_access_mm(struct mm_struct *mm, struct task_struct *task, unsigned int mode)
> > > > +{
> > > > +       if (mm == current->mm)
> > > > +               return true;
> > > > +       if ((mode & PTRACE_MODE_READ) && perfmon_capable())
> > > > +               return true;
> > > > +       return ptrace_may_access(task, mode);
> > > > +}
> >
> > nit: "may" tends to be used more than "can" for access check function naming.
> 
> good point, will change to "may"
> 
> >
> > So, this will bypass security_ptrace_access_check() within
> > ptrace_may_access(). CAP_PERFMON may be something LSMs want visibility
> > into.
> 
> yeah, similar to perf's perf_check_permission() (though, admittedly,
> perf has its own security_perf_event_open(&attr, PERF_SECURITY_OPEN)
> check much earlier in perf_event_open() logic)
> 
> >
> > It also bypasses the dumpability check in __ptrace_may_access(). (Should
> > non-dumpability block visibility into "maps" under CAP_PERFMON?)
> 
> With perf_event_open() and PERF_RECORD_MMAP none of this dumpability
> is honored today as well, so I think CAP_PERFMON should override all
> these ptrace things here, no?
> 
> >
> > This change provides read access for CAP_PERFMON to:
> >
> > /proc/$pid/maps
> > /proc/$pid/smaps
> > /proc/$pid/mem
> > /proc/$pid/environ
> > /proc/$pid/auxv
> > /proc/$pid/attr/*
> > /proc/$pid/smaps_rollup
> > /proc/$pid/pagemap
> >
> > /proc/$pid/mem access seems way out of bounds for CAP_PERFMON. environ
> > and auxv maybe too much also. The "attr" files seem iffy. pagemap may be
> > reasonable.
> 
> As Shakeel pointed out, /proc/PID/mem is PTRACE_MODE_ATTACH, so won't
> be permitted under CAP_PERFMON either.
> 
> Don't really know what auxv is, but I could read all that with BPF if
> I had CAP_PERFMON, for any task, so not like we are opening up new
> possibilities here.
> 
> >
> > Gaining CAP_PERFMON access to *only* the "maps" file doesn't seem too
> > bad to me, but I think the proposed patch ends up providing way too wide
> > access to other things.
> 
> I do care about maps mostly, yes, but I also wanted to avoid
> duplicating all that mm_access() logic just for maps (and probably
> smaps, they are the same data). But again, CAP_PERFMON basically means
> read-only tracing access to anything within kernel and any user
> process, so it felt appropriate to allow CAP_PERFMON here.
> 
> >
> > Also, this is doing an init-namespace capability check for
> > CAP_PERFMON (via perfmon_capable()). Shouldn't this be per-namespace?
> 
> CAP_PERFMON isn't namespaced as far as perf_event_open() is concerned,
> so at least for that reason I don't want to relax the requirement
> here. Namespacing CAP_PERFMON in general is interesting and I bet
> there are users that would appreciate that, but that's an entire epic
> journey we probably don't want to start here.

Agreed.


  reply	other threads:[~2025-01-24  9:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-01-23 21:43 Andrii Nakryiko
2025-01-23 21:52 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-01-23 23:47   ` Kees Cook
2025-01-23 23:55     ` Jann Horn
2025-01-24  1:02       ` Andrii Nakryiko
2025-01-24  0:26     ` Shakeel Butt
2025-01-24  0:59     ` Andrii Nakryiko
2025-01-24  9:38       ` Christian Brauner [this message]
2025-01-24  9:45 ` Christian Brauner
2025-01-24 17:31   ` Andrii Nakryiko

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