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From: Hyesoo Yu <hyesoo.yu@samsung.com>
To: Hyeonggon Yoo <hyeonggon.yoo@sk.com>
Cc: Hyeonggon Yoo <42.hyeyoo@gmail.com>,
	kernel_team@skhynix.com,
	"janghyuck.kim@samsung.com" <janghyuck.kim@samsung.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
	Christoph Lameter <cl@linux.com>,
	Pekka Enberg <penberg@kernel.org>,
	David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
	Joonsoo Kim <iamjoonsoo.kim@lge.com>,
	Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>,
	Roman Gushchin <roman.gushchin@linux.dev>,
	"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	"linux-doc@vger.kernel.org" <linux-doc@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm: slub: Panic if the object corruption is checked.
Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2025 11:32:40 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250121023240.GA645761@tiffany> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1495dc28-f16c-4990-ad89-2a90b79a80b8@sk.com>

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On Tue, Jan 21, 2025 at 10:48:08AM +0900, Hyeonggon Yoo wrote:
> 
> 
> On 1/21/2025 9:54 AM, Hyesoo Yu wrote:
> > On Tue, Jan 21, 2025 at 12:41:01AM +0900, Hyeonggon Yoo wrote:
> > > On Mon, Jan 20, 2025 at 5:30 PM Hyesoo Yu <hyesoo.yu@samsung.com> wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > If a slab object is corrupted or an error occurs in its internal
> > > > value, continuing after restoration may cause other side effects.
> > > > At this point, it is difficult to debug because the problem occurred
> > > > in the past. A flag has been added that can cause a panic when there
> > > > is a problem with the object.
> > > 
> > > Hi Hyesoo,
> > > 
> > > I'm concerned about this because it goes against the effort to avoid
> > > introducing new BUG() calls [1].
> > > 
> > > And I think it would be more appropriate to use existing panic_on_warn
> > > functionality [2] which causes
> > > a panic on WARN(), rather than introducing a SLUB-specific knob to do
> > > the same thing.
> > > 
> > > However SLUB does not call WARN() and uses pr_err() instead when
> > > reporting an error.
> > > Vlastimil and I talked about changing it to use WARN() a while ago
> > > [3], but neither of us
> > > have done that yet.
> > > 
> > > Probably you may want to look at it, as it also aligns with your purpose?
> > > FYI, if you would like to work on it, please make sure that it WARN()
> > > is suppressed during kunit test.
> > > 
> > > [1] https://docs.kernel.org/process/deprecated.html#bug-and-bug-on
> > > [2] https://www.kernel.org/doc/html/v6.9/admin-guide/sysctl/kernel.html#panic-on-warn
> > > [3] https://lore.kernel.org/linux-mm/d4219cd9-32d3-4697-93b9-6a44bf77d50c@suse.cz
> > > 
> > > Best,
> > > Hyeonggon
> > 
> > Thanks for response.
> > 
> > Using warn() instead of panic, is a great idea.
> > Thanks for pointing out what I missed.
> 
> Just for clarification, I think changing the common error reporting
> logic (like, slab_bug()) to use WARN() will be preferable to inserting
> new WARN()s at random points, which is what this patch does now.
> 
> Best,
> Hyeonggon
> 

Thanks you for clarification.

Actually, I considered adding BUG_ON() to slab_bug. However if we add BUG_ON() to slab_bug,
it will prevent many meaningful error log from being printed subsequently.
As you know, slab_bug is the log that usually is printed at the biginning of a bug
in the slab. As a result, it would be difficult to figure out the problems based on
the logs during our large-scale test-bed.

Similary, even if I use WARN() in slab_bug, we won't be able to obtain the logs
when panic_on_warn is enabled. I don't think it is useful to include WARN in slab_bug.

Instead, I will implement a solution where WARN is only used in slab_fix before
slab object is restored. If I add it to slab_fix, I think warning is suppressed on
kunit test by slab_add_kunit_errors handling.

Thanks,
Regards.

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  reply	other threads:[~2025-01-21  2:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <CGME20250120083041epcas2p30d61ee801c1db5a7ebdf26fdc642883f@epcas2p3.samsung.com>
2025-01-20  8:28 ` Hyesoo Yu
2025-01-20 15:36   ` Matthew Wilcox
2025-01-21  0:40     ` Hyesoo Yu
2025-01-21 10:27       ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-01-20 15:41   ` Hyeonggon Yoo
2025-01-21  0:54     ` Hyesoo Yu
2025-01-21  1:48       ` Hyeonggon Yoo
2025-01-21  2:32         ` Hyesoo Yu [this message]
2025-01-21 10:28           ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-01-21 12:46   ` kernel test robot

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