From: Sebastian Andrzej Siewior <bigeasy@linutronix.de>
To: Alexei Starovoitov <alexei.starovoitov@gmail.com>
Cc: bpf@vger.kernel.org, andrii@kernel.org, memxor@gmail.com,
akpm@linux-foundation.org, peterz@infradead.org, vbabka@suse.cz,
rostedt@goodmis.org, houtao1@huawei.com, hannes@cmpxchg.org,
shakeel.butt@linux.dev, mhocko@suse.com, willy@infradead.org,
tglx@linutronix.de, jannh@google.com, tj@kernel.org,
linux-mm@kvack.org, kernel-team@fb.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH bpf-next v5 3/7] locking/local_lock: Introduce local_trylock_irqsave()
Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2025 21:33:15 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250117203315.FWviQT38@linutronix.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250115021746.34691-4-alexei.starovoitov@gmail.com>
On 2025-01-14 18:17:42 [-0800], Alexei Starovoitov wrote:
> diff --git a/include/linux/local_lock_internal.h b/include/linux/local_lock_internal.h
> index 8dd71fbbb6d2..93672127c73d 100644
> --- a/include/linux/local_lock_internal.h
> +++ b/include/linux/local_lock_internal.h
> @@ -75,37 +85,73 @@ do { \
>
> #define __local_lock(lock) \
> do { \
> + local_lock_t *l; \
> preempt_disable(); \
> - local_lock_acquire(this_cpu_ptr(lock)); \
> + l = this_cpu_ptr(lock); \
> + lockdep_assert(l->active == 0); \
> + WRITE_ONCE(l->active, 1); \
> + local_lock_acquire(l); \
> } while (0)
…
> +#define __local_trylock_irqsave(lock, flags) \
> + ({ \
> + local_lock_t *l; \
> + local_irq_save(flags); \
> + l = this_cpu_ptr(lock); \
> + if (READ_ONCE(l->active) == 1) { \
> + local_irq_restore(flags); \
> + l = NULL; \
> + } else { \
> + WRITE_ONCE(l->active, 1); \
> + local_trylock_acquire(l); \
> + } \
> + !!l; \
> + })
> +
Part of the selling for local_lock_t was that it does not affect
!PREEMPT_RT builds. By adding `active' you extend every data structure
and you have an extra write on every local_lock(). It was meant to
replace preempt_disable()/ local_irq_save() based locking with something
that actually does locking on PREEMPT_RT without risking my life once
people with pitchforks come talk about the new locking :)
I admire that you try to make PREEMPT_RT and !PREEMPT_RT similar in a
way that both detect recursive locking which not meant to be supported.
Realistically speaking as of today we don't have any recursive lock
detection other than lockdep. So it should be enough given that the bots
use it often and hopefully local testing.
Your assert in local_lock() does not work without lockdep. It will only
make local_trylock_irqsave() detect recursion and lead to two splats
with lockdep enabled in local_lock() (one from the assert and the second
from lockdep).
I would say you could get rid of the `active' field and solely rely on
lockdep and the owner field. So __local_trylock_irqsave() could maybe
use local_trylock_acquire() to conditionally acquire the lock if `owner'
is NULL.
This makes it possible to have recursive code without lockdep, but with
lockdep enabled the testcase should fail if it relies on recursion.
Other than that, I don't see any advantage. Would that work?
Sebastian
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-01-17 20:33 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-01-15 2:17 [PATCH bpf-next v5 0/7] bpf, mm: Introduce try_alloc_pages() Alexei Starovoitov
2025-01-15 2:17 ` [PATCH bpf-next v5 1/7] mm, bpf: Introduce try_alloc_pages() for opportunistic page allocation Alexei Starovoitov
2025-01-15 11:19 ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-01-15 23:00 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2025-01-15 23:47 ` Shakeel Butt
2025-01-16 2:44 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2025-01-15 23:16 ` Shakeel Butt
2025-01-17 18:19 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2025-01-15 2:17 ` [PATCH bpf-next v5 2/7] mm, bpf: Introduce free_pages_nolock() Alexei Starovoitov
2025-01-15 11:47 ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-01-15 23:15 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2025-01-16 8:31 ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-01-17 18:20 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2025-01-15 2:17 ` [PATCH bpf-next v5 3/7] locking/local_lock: Introduce local_trylock_irqsave() Alexei Starovoitov
2025-01-15 2:23 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2025-01-15 7:22 ` Sebastian Sewior
2025-01-15 14:22 ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-01-16 2:20 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2025-01-17 20:33 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior [this message]
2025-01-21 15:59 ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-01-21 16:43 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2025-01-22 1:35 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2025-01-15 2:17 ` [PATCH bpf-next v5 4/7] memcg: Use trylock to access memcg stock_lock Alexei Starovoitov
2025-01-15 16:07 ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-01-16 0:12 ` Shakeel Butt
2025-01-16 2:22 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2025-01-16 20:07 ` Joshua Hahn
2025-01-17 17:36 ` Johannes Weiner
2025-01-15 2:17 ` [PATCH bpf-next v5 5/7] mm, bpf: Use memcg in try_alloc_pages() Alexei Starovoitov
2025-01-15 17:51 ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-01-16 0:24 ` Shakeel Butt
2025-01-15 2:17 ` [PATCH bpf-next v5 6/7] mm: Make failslab, kfence, kmemleak aware of trylock mode Alexei Starovoitov
2025-01-15 17:57 ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-01-16 2:23 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2025-01-15 2:17 ` [PATCH bpf-next v5 7/7] bpf: Use try_alloc_pages() to allocate pages for bpf needs Alexei Starovoitov
2025-01-15 18:02 ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-01-16 2:25 ` Alexei Starovoitov
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