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* [PATCH] mm/memory.c: Add return NUMA_NO_NODE in numa_migrate_check() when folio_nid() and numa_node_id() are the same.
@ 2025-01-09  6:46 Donet Tom
  2025-01-09 13:13 ` David Hildenbrand
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread
From: Donet Tom @ 2025-01-09  6:46 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Andrew Morton, linux-mm, linux-kernel
  Cc: Ritesh Harjani, Baolin Wang, Aneesh Kumar K . V, Matthew Wilcox,
	Zi Yan, David Hildenbrand, Muchun Song

If the folio_nid() and numa_node_id() are the same, it indicates
that the folio is already on the same node as the process. In
this case, there's no need to migrate the pages.

This patch adds return NUMA_NO_NODE in numa_migrate_check() when
the folio_nid() and numa_node_id() match, preventing the function
from executing the remaining code unnecessarily.

Signed-off-by: Donet Tom <donettom@linux.ibm.com>
---
 mm/memory.c | 1 +
 1 file changed, 1 insertion(+)

diff --git a/mm/memory.c b/mm/memory.c
index 398c031be9ba..dfd89ff7f639 100644
--- a/mm/memory.c
+++ b/mm/memory.c
@@ -5509,6 +5509,7 @@ int numa_migrate_check(struct folio *folio, struct vm_fault *vmf,
 	if (folio_nid(folio) == numa_node_id()) {
 		count_vm_numa_event(NUMA_HINT_FAULTS_LOCAL);
 		*flags |= TNF_FAULT_LOCAL;
+		return NUMA_NO_NODE;
 	}
 
 	return mpol_misplaced(folio, vmf, addr);
-- 
2.43.5



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* Re: [PATCH] mm/memory.c: Add return NUMA_NO_NODE in numa_migrate_check() when folio_nid() and numa_node_id() are the same.
  2025-01-09  6:46 [PATCH] mm/memory.c: Add return NUMA_NO_NODE in numa_migrate_check() when folio_nid() and numa_node_id() are the same Donet Tom
@ 2025-01-09 13:13 ` David Hildenbrand
  2025-01-09 14:29   ` Donet Tom
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread
From: David Hildenbrand @ 2025-01-09 13:13 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Donet Tom, Andrew Morton, linux-mm, linux-kernel
  Cc: Ritesh Harjani, Baolin Wang, Aneesh Kumar K . V, Matthew Wilcox,
	Zi Yan, Muchun Song

On 09.01.25 07:46, Donet Tom wrote:
> If the folio_nid() and numa_node_id() are the same, it indicates
> that the folio is already on the same node as the process. In
> this case, there's no need to migrate the pages.
> 
> This patch adds return NUMA_NO_NODE in numa_migrate_check() when
> the folio_nid() and numa_node_id() match, preventing the function
> from executing the remaining code unnecessarily.
> 
> Signed-off-by: Donet Tom <donettom@linux.ibm.com>
> ---
>   mm/memory.c | 1 +
>   1 file changed, 1 insertion(+)
> 
> diff --git a/mm/memory.c b/mm/memory.c
> index 398c031be9ba..dfd89ff7f639 100644
> --- a/mm/memory.c
> +++ b/mm/memory.c
> @@ -5509,6 +5509,7 @@ int numa_migrate_check(struct folio *folio, struct vm_fault *vmf,
>   	if (folio_nid(folio) == numa_node_id()) {
>   		count_vm_numa_event(NUMA_HINT_FAULTS_LOCAL);
>   		*flags |= TNF_FAULT_LOCAL;
> +		return NUMA_NO_NODE;

Doesn't this just mean that it is a local fault, but not necessarily 
that we don't want to migrate that folio?

mpol_misplaced states: "check whether current folio node is valid in policy"

Could we have a different policy set that does not indicate the local 
node as the target node?

Note how mpol_misplaced() obtains the target node to the do


int curnid = folio_nid(folio);
...
int polnid = NUMA_NO_NODE;
int ret = NUMA_NO_NODE

... detect polnid

if (curnid != polnid)
	ret = polnid;
...
return ret;


So mpol_misplaced() will return "NUMA_NO_NODE" if already on the correct 
target node.

-- 
Cheers,

David / dhildenb



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* Re: [PATCH] mm/memory.c: Add return NUMA_NO_NODE in numa_migrate_check() when folio_nid() and numa_node_id() are the same.
  2025-01-09 13:13 ` David Hildenbrand
@ 2025-01-09 14:29   ` Donet Tom
  2025-01-09 14:40     ` David Hildenbrand
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread
From: Donet Tom @ 2025-01-09 14:29 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: David Hildenbrand, Andrew Morton, linux-mm, linux-kernel
  Cc: Ritesh Harjani, Baolin Wang, Aneesh Kumar K . V, Matthew Wilcox,
	Zi Yan, Muchun Song


On 1/9/25 18:43, David Hildenbrand wrote:
> On 09.01.25 07:46, Donet Tom wrote:
>> If the folio_nid() and numa_node_id() are the same, it indicates
>> that the folio is already on the same node as the process. In
>> this case, there's no need to migrate the pages.
>>
>> This patch adds return NUMA_NO_NODE in numa_migrate_check() when
>> the folio_nid() and numa_node_id() match, preventing the function
>> from executing the remaining code unnecessarily.
>>
>> Signed-off-by: Donet Tom <donettom@linux.ibm.com>
>> ---
>>   mm/memory.c | 1 +
>>   1 file changed, 1 insertion(+)
>>
>> diff --git a/mm/memory.c b/mm/memory.c
>> index 398c031be9ba..dfd89ff7f639 100644
>> --- a/mm/memory.c
>> +++ b/mm/memory.c
>> @@ -5509,6 +5509,7 @@ int numa_migrate_check(struct folio *folio, 
>> struct vm_fault *vmf,
>>       if (folio_nid(folio) == numa_node_id()) {
>>           count_vm_numa_event(NUMA_HINT_FAULTS_LOCAL);
>>           *flags |= TNF_FAULT_LOCAL;
>> +        return NUMA_NO_NODE;
>
> Doesn't this just mean that it is a local fault, but not necessarily 
> that we don't want to migrate that folio?
>
> mpol_misplaced states: "check whether current folio node is valid in 
> policy"
>
> Could we have a different policy set that does not indicate the local 
> node as the target node?
>
> Note how mpol_misplaced() obtains the target node to the do
>
>
> int curnid = folio_nid(folio);
> ...
> int polnid = NUMA_NO_NODE;
> int ret = NUMA_NO_NODE
>
> ... detect polnid
>
> if (curnid != polnid)
>     ret = polnid;
> ...
> return ret;
>
>
> So mpol_misplaced() will return "NUMA_NO_NODE" if already on the 
> correct target node.

Thank you, David. I understood my patch is wrong.

I have a small question: Page access latency is lower when the folio is 
on the same NUMA
node as the process. However, if the policy node is set to a different 
NUMA node and the
MPOL_F_MORON flag is not set, we migrate the page to the policy node, 
thereby increasing
access latency.  Could this have an impact on performance? What benefits 
do we gain from this?



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* Re: [PATCH] mm/memory.c: Add return NUMA_NO_NODE in numa_migrate_check() when folio_nid() and numa_node_id() are the same.
  2025-01-09 14:29   ` Donet Tom
@ 2025-01-09 14:40     ` David Hildenbrand
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 4+ messages in thread
From: David Hildenbrand @ 2025-01-09 14:40 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Donet Tom, Andrew Morton, linux-mm, linux-kernel
  Cc: Ritesh Harjani, Baolin Wang, Aneesh Kumar K . V, Matthew Wilcox,
	Zi Yan, Muchun Song

On 09.01.25 15:29, Donet Tom wrote:
> 
> On 1/9/25 18:43, David Hildenbrand wrote:
>> On 09.01.25 07:46, Donet Tom wrote:
>>> If the folio_nid() and numa_node_id() are the same, it indicates
>>> that the folio is already on the same node as the process. In
>>> this case, there's no need to migrate the pages.
>>>
>>> This patch adds return NUMA_NO_NODE in numa_migrate_check() when
>>> the folio_nid() and numa_node_id() match, preventing the function
>>> from executing the remaining code unnecessarily.
>>>
>>> Signed-off-by: Donet Tom <donettom@linux.ibm.com>
>>> ---
>>>    mm/memory.c | 1 +
>>>    1 file changed, 1 insertion(+)
>>>
>>> diff --git a/mm/memory.c b/mm/memory.c
>>> index 398c031be9ba..dfd89ff7f639 100644
>>> --- a/mm/memory.c
>>> +++ b/mm/memory.c
>>> @@ -5509,6 +5509,7 @@ int numa_migrate_check(struct folio *folio,
>>> struct vm_fault *vmf,
>>>        if (folio_nid(folio) == numa_node_id()) {
>>>            count_vm_numa_event(NUMA_HINT_FAULTS_LOCAL);
>>>            *flags |= TNF_FAULT_LOCAL;
>>> +        return NUMA_NO_NODE;
>>
>> Doesn't this just mean that it is a local fault, but not necessarily
>> that we don't want to migrate that folio?
>>
>> mpol_misplaced states: "check whether current folio node is valid in
>> policy"
>>
>> Could we have a different policy set that does not indicate the local
>> node as the target node?
>>
>> Note how mpol_misplaced() obtains the target node to the do
>>
>>
>> int curnid = folio_nid(folio);
>> ...
>> int polnid = NUMA_NO_NODE;
>> int ret = NUMA_NO_NODE
>>
>> ... detect polnid
>>
>> if (curnid != polnid)
>>      ret = polnid;
>> ...
>> return ret;
>>
>>
>> So mpol_misplaced() will return "NUMA_NO_NODE" if already on the
>> correct target node.
> 
> Thank you, David. I understood my patch is wrong.
> 
> I have a small question: Page access latency is lower when the folio is
> on the same NUMA
> node as the process. However, if the policy node is set to a different
> NUMA node and the
> MPOL_F_MORON flag is not set, we migrate the page to the policy node,
> thereby increasing
> access latency.  Could this have an impact on performance? What benefits
> do we gain from this?

I have to admit, that I have not much idea about the details here 
(especially, how MORON comes into play here), so what I write below 
might be wrong :)

Consider the following example: making use of memory on CPU-less NUMA 
nodes (e.g., CXL, NVDIMM, whatsoever). In that case, access latency 
might be higher, but maybe that's exactly what someone wants to achieve 
here (e.g., placing cold data).

Maybe page demotion can come into play here as well. But the 
MPOL_F_MORON is slightly confusing me.

-- 
Cheers,

David / dhildenb



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