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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>
Cc: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, liam.howlett@oracle.com,
	lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com, mhocko@suse.com, vbabka@suse.cz,
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	hughd@google.com, minchan@google.com, jannh@google.com,
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	pasha.tatashin@soleen.com, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, kernel-team@android.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/4] mm: replace rw_semaphore with atomic_t in vma_lock
Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2024 23:38:50 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20241210223850.GA2484@noisy.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJuCfpHpGSpix8+mB76Virb+HAMrOqB3wG8E4EXPrRCnBoBGeA@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Nov 12, 2024 at 07:18:45AM -0800, Suren Baghdasaryan wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 11, 2024 at 8:58 PM Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org> wrote:
> >
> > On Mon, Nov 11, 2024 at 12:55:05PM -0800, Suren Baghdasaryan wrote:
> > > When a reader takes read lock, it increments the atomic, unless the
> > > top two bits are set indicating a writer is present.
> > > When writer takes write lock, it sets VMA_LOCK_WR_LOCKED bit if there
> > > are no readers or VMA_LOCK_WR_WAIT bit if readers are holding the lock
> > > and puts itself onto newly introduced mm.vma_writer_wait. Since all
> > > writers take mmap_lock in write mode first, there can be only one writer
> > > at a time. The last reader to release the lock will signal the writer
> > > to wake up.
> >
> > I don't think you need two bits.  You can do it this way:
> >
> > 0x8000'0000 - No readers, no writers
> > 0x1-7fff'ffff - Some number of readers
> > 0x0 - Writer held
> > 0x8000'0001-0xffff'ffff - Reader held, writer waiting
> >
> > A prospective writer subtracts 0x8000'0000.  If the result is 0, it got
> > the lock, otherwise it sleeps until it is 0.
> >
> > A writer unlocks by adding 0x8000'0000 (not by setting the value to
> > 0x8000'0000).
> >
> > A reader unlocks by adding 1.  If the result is 0, it wakes the writer.
> >
> > A prospective reader subtracts 1.  If the result is positive, it got the
> > lock, otherwise it does the unlock above (this might be the one which
> > wakes the writer).
> >
> > And ... that's it.  See how we use the CPU arithmetic flags to tell us
> > everything we need to know without doing arithmetic separately?
> 
> Yes, this is neat! You are using the fact that write-locked == no
> readers to eliminate unnecessary state. I'll give that a try. Thanks!

The reason I got here is that Vlastimil poked me about the whole
TYPESAFE_BY_RCU thing.

So the normal way those things work is with a refcount, if the refcount
is non-zero, the identifying fields should be stable and you can
determine if you have the right object, otherwise tough luck.

And I was thinking that since you abuse this rwsem you have, you might
as well turn that into a refcount with some extra.

So I would propose a slightly different solution.

Replace vm_lock with vm_refcnt. Replace vm_detached with vm_refcnt == 0
-- that is, attach sets refcount to 1 to indicate it is part of the mas,
detached is the final 'put'.

RCU lookup does the inc_not_zero thing, when increment succeeds, compare
mm/addr to validate.

vma_start_write() already relies on mmap_lock being held for writing,
and thus does not have to worry about writer-vs-writer contention, that
is fully resolved by mmap_sem. This means we only need to wait for
readers to drop out.

vma_start_write()
	add(0x8000'0001); // could fetch_add and double check the high
			  // bit wasn't already set.
	wait-until(refcnt == 0x8000'0002); // mas + writer ref
	WRITE_ONCE(vma->vm_lock_seq, mm_lock_seq);
	sub(0x8000'0000);

vma_end_write()
	put();

vma_start_read() then becomes something like:

	if (vm_lock_seq == mm_lock_seq)
	  return false;

	cnt = fetch_inc(1);
	if (cnt & msb || vm_lock_seq == mm_lock_seq) {
	  put();
	  return false;
	}

	return true;
	
vma_end_read() then becomes:
	put();


and the down_read() from uffffffd requires mmap_read_lock() and thus
does not have to worry about writers, it can simpy be inc() and put(),
no?


  reply	other threads:[~2024-12-10 22:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-11-11 20:55 [PATCH 0/4] move per-vma lock into vm_area_struct Suren Baghdasaryan
2024-11-11 20:55 ` [PATCH 1/4] mm: introduce vma_start_read_locked{_nested} helpers Suren Baghdasaryan
2024-11-11 20:55 ` [PATCH 2/4] mm: move per-vma lock into vm_area_struct Suren Baghdasaryan
2024-11-12  9:36   ` kernel test robot
2024-11-12  9:47   ` kernel test robot
2024-11-12 10:18   ` kernel test robot
2024-11-12 15:57   ` Vlastimil Babka
2024-11-12 16:08     ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2024-11-12 16:58       ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2024-11-11 20:55 ` [PATCH 3/4] mm: replace rw_semaphore with atomic_t in vma_lock Suren Baghdasaryan
2024-11-12  0:06   ` Andrew Morton
2024-11-12  0:52     ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2024-11-12  0:35   ` Davidlohr Bueso
2024-11-12  0:59     ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2024-11-12  4:58   ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-11-12 15:18     ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2024-12-10 22:38       ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2024-12-10 23:37         ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2024-12-11  8:25           ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-12-11 15:20             ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2024-12-12  3:01               ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2024-12-12  9:16                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-12-12 14:17                   ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2024-12-12 14:19                     ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2024-12-13  4:48                       ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2024-12-13  9:57                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-12-13 17:45                           ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2024-12-13 18:19                             ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-12-13 18:35                             ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-12-13 18:37                               ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2024-12-16 19:32                                 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2024-12-13  9:22                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-12-13 17:41                       ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2024-11-11 20:55 ` [PATCH 4/4] mm: move lesser used vma_area_struct members into the last cacheline Suren Baghdasaryan
2024-11-12 10:07   ` Vlastimil Babka
2024-11-12 15:45     ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2024-11-11 21:41 ` [PATCH 0/4] move per-vma lock into vm_area_struct Suren Baghdasaryan
2024-11-12  2:48   ` Liam R. Howlett
2024-11-12  3:27     ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2024-11-11 22:18 ` Davidlohr Bueso
2024-11-11 23:19   ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2024-11-12  0:03     ` Davidlohr Bueso
2024-11-12  0:43       ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2024-11-12  0:11     ` Andrew Morton
2024-11-12  0:48       ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2024-11-12  2:35 ` Liam R. Howlett
2024-11-12  3:23   ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2024-11-12  9:39 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2024-11-12 15:38   ` Suren Baghdasaryan

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