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From: Petr Tesarik <ptesarik@suse.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
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Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v3 13/15] context_tracking,x86: Add infrastructure to defer kernel TLBI
Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2024 18:31:11 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20241205183111.12dc16b3@mordecai.tesarici.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20241121153016.GL39245@noisy.programming.kicks-ass.net>

On Thu, 21 Nov 2024 16:30:16 +0100
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> wrote:

> On Thu, Nov 21, 2024 at 07:07:44AM -0800, Dave Hansen wrote:
> > On 11/21/24 03:12, Peter Zijlstra wrote:  
> > >> I see e.g. ds_clear_cea() clears PTEs that can have the _PAGE_GLOBAL flag,
> > >> and it correctly uses the non-deferrable flush_tlb_kernel_range().  
> > > 
> > > I always forget what we use global pages for, dhansen might know, but
> > > let me try and have a look.
> > > 
> > > I *think* we only have GLOBAL on kernel text, and that only sometimes.  
> > 
> > I think you're remembering how _PAGE_GLOBAL gets used when KPTI is in play.  
> 
> Yah, I suppose I am. That was the last time I had a good look at this
> stuff :-)
> 
> > Ignoring KPTI for a sec... We use _PAGE_GLOBAL for all kernel mappings.
> > Before PCIDs, global mappings let the kernel TLB entries live across CR3
> > writes. When PCIDs are in play, global mappings let two different ASIDs
> > share TLB entries.  
> 
> Hurmph.. bah. That means we do need that horrible CR4 dance :/

In general, yes.

But I wonder what exactly was the original scenario encountered by
Valentin. I mean, if TLB entry invalidations were necessary to sync
changes to kernel text after flipping a static branch, then it might be
less overhead to make a list of affected pages and call INVLPG on them.

AFAIK there is currently no such IPI function for doing that, but if we
could add one. If the list of invalidated global pages is reasonably
short, of course.

Valentin, do you happen to know?

Petr T


  reply	other threads:[~2024-12-05 17:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 64+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-11-19 15:34 [RFC PATCH v3 00/15] context_tracking,x86: Defer some IPIs until a user->kernel transition Valentin Schneider
2024-11-19 15:34 ` [RFC PATCH v3 01/15] objtool: Make validate_call() recognize indirect calls to pv_ops[] Valentin Schneider
2024-11-19 20:38   ` Josh Poimboeuf
2024-11-19 15:34 ` [RFC PATCH v3 02/15] objtool: Flesh out warning related to pv_ops[] calls Valentin Schneider
2024-11-19 20:38   ` Josh Poimboeuf
2024-11-19 15:34 ` [RFC PATCH v3 03/15] sched/clock: Make sched_clock_running __ro_after_init Valentin Schneider
2024-11-19 15:34 ` [RFC PATCH v3 04/15] rcu: Add a small-width RCU watching counter debug option Valentin Schneider
2024-11-20 14:50   ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-11-20 16:15     ` Valentin Schneider
2024-11-22 12:53   ` Paul E. McKenney
2024-11-22 13:56     ` Valentin Schneider
2024-11-19 15:34 ` [RFC PATCH v3 05/15] rcutorture: Make TREE04 use CONFIG_RCU_DYNTICKS_TORTURE Valentin Schneider
2024-11-22 12:54   ` Paul E. McKenney
2024-11-19 15:34 ` [RFC PATCH v3 06/15] jump_label: Add forceful jump label type Valentin Schneider
2024-11-19 23:39   ` Josh Poimboeuf
2024-11-20 14:56     ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-11-20 14:57       ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-11-20 16:55         ` Josh Poimboeuf
2024-11-21 11:00           ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-11-21 15:38             ` Josh Poimboeuf
2024-11-21 15:51             ` Valentin Schneider
2024-11-21 20:21               ` Josh Poimboeuf
2024-11-22 10:17                 ` Valentin Schneider
2024-11-20 16:24     ` Valentin Schneider
2024-11-20  0:05   ` Josh Poimboeuf
2024-11-20 10:22     ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-11-19 15:34 ` [RFC PATCH v3 07/15] x86/speculation/mds: Make mds_idle_clear forceful Valentin Schneider
2024-11-19 15:34 ` [RFC PATCH v3 08/15] sched/clock, x86: Make __sched_clock_stable forceful Valentin Schneider
2024-11-20 14:59   ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-11-20 16:34     ` Valentin Schneider
2024-11-21 11:02       ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-11-19 15:34 ` [RFC PATCH v3 09/15] objtool: Warn about non __ro_after_init static key usage in .noinstr Valentin Schneider
2024-11-20 17:13   ` Josh Poimboeuf
2024-11-19 15:34 ` [RFC PATCH v3 10/15] x86/alternatives: Record text_poke's of JUMP_TYPE_FORCEFUL labels Valentin Schneider
2024-11-19 15:34 ` [RFC PATCH v3 11/15] context-tracking: Introduce work deferral infrastructure Valentin Schneider
2024-11-20 10:54   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-11-20 14:23     ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-11-20 17:10       ` Valentin Schneider
2024-11-20 17:30         ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-11-22 14:56           ` Valentin Schneider
2024-11-24 21:46             ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-11-29 16:40               ` Valentin Schneider
2024-11-29 22:19                 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-11-19 15:34 ` [RFC PATCH v3 12/15] context_tracking,x86: Defer kernel text patching IPIs Valentin Schneider
2024-11-20 15:13   ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-11-19 15:35 ` [RFC PATCH v3 13/15] context_tracking,x86: Add infrastructure to defer kernel TLBI Valentin Schneider
2024-11-20 15:22   ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-11-20 15:32     ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-11-20 17:24       ` Valentin Schneider
2024-11-21 11:12         ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-11-21 15:07           ` Dave Hansen
2024-11-21 15:30             ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-12-05 17:31               ` Petr Tesarik [this message]
2024-12-09 12:04                 ` Valentin Schneider
2024-12-09 12:12                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-12-09 14:42                     ` Petr Tesarik
2024-12-10 13:53                       ` Valentin Schneider
2024-12-10 14:42                         ` Petr Tesarik
2024-12-09 12:33                   ` Petr Tesarik
2024-11-21 16:26   ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-11-19 15:35 ` [RFC PATCH v3 14/15] x86/mm, mm/vmalloc: Defer flush_tlb_kernel_range() targeting NOHZ_FULL CPUs Valentin Schneider
2024-11-19 15:35 ` [RFC PATCH v3 15/15] context-tracking: Add a Kconfig to enable IPI deferral for NO_HZ_IDLE Valentin Schneider
2024-11-19 16:45 ` [RFC PATCH v3 00/15] context_tracking,x86: Defer some IPIs until a user->kernel transition Steven Rostedt
2024-11-19 22:51   ` Valentin Schneider

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