From: Jonathan Cameron <Jonathan.Cameron@huawei.com>
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Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 0/4] CXL Hotness Monitoring Unit perf driver
Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2024 13:47:51 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20241121134751.00006e26@huawei.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20241121101845.1815660-1-Jonathan.Cameron@huawei.com>
On Thu, 21 Nov 2024 10:18:41 +0000
Jonathan Cameron <Jonathan.Cameron@huawei.com> wrote:
> The CXL specification release 3.2 is now available under a click through at
> https://computeexpresslink.org/cxl-specification/ and it brings new
> shiny toys.
>
> RFC reason
> - Whilst trace capture with a particular configuration is potentially useful
> the intent is that CXL HMU units will be used to drive various forms of
> hotpage migration for memory tiering setups. This driver doesn't do this
> (yet), but rather provides data capture etc for experimentation and
> for working out how to mostly put the allocations in the right place to
> start with by tuning applications.
>
> CXL r3.2 introduces a CXL Hotness Monitoring Unit definition. The intent
> of this is to provide a way to establish which units of memory (typically
> pages or larger) in CXL attached memory are hot. The implementation details
> and algorithm are all implementation defined. The specification simply
> describes the 'interface' which takes the form of ring buffer of hotness
> records in a PCI BAR and defined capability, configuration and status
> registers.
>
> The hardware may have constraints on what it can track, granularity etc
> and on how accurately it tracks (e.g. counter exhaustion, inaccurate
> trackers). Some of these constraints are discoverable from the hardware
> registers, others such as loss of accuracy have no universally accepted
> measures as they are typically access pattern dependent. Sadly it is
> very unlikely any hardware will implement a truly precise tracker given
> the large resource requirements for tracking at a useful granularity.
>
> There are two fundamental operation modes:
>
> * Epoch based. Counters are checked after a period of time (Epoch) and
> if over a threshold added to the hotlist.
> * Always on. Counters run until a threshold is reached, after that the
> hot unit is added to the hotlist and the counter released.
>
> Counting can be filtered on:
>
> * Region of CXL DPA space (256MiB per bit in a bitmap).
> * Type of access - Trusted and non trusted or non trusted only, R/W/RW
>
> Sampling can be modified by:
>
> * Downsampling including potentially randomized downsampling.
>
> The driver presented here is intended to be useful in its own right but
> also to act as the first step of a possible path towards hotness monitoring
> based hot page migration. Those steps might look like.
>
> 1. Gather data - drivers provide telemetry like solutions to get that
> data. May be enhanced, for example in this driver by providing the
> HPA address rather than DPA Unit Address. Userspace can access enough
> information to do this so maybe not.
> 2. Userspace algorithm development, possibly combined with userspace
> triggered migration by PA. Working out how to use different levels
> of constrained hardware resources will be challenging.
> 3. Move those algorithms in kernel. Will require generalization across
> different hotpage trackers etc.
>
> So far this driver just gives access to the raw data. I will probably kick
> of a longer discussion on how to do adaptive sampling needed to actually
> use these units for tiering etc, sometime soon (if no one one else beats
> me too it). There is a follow up topic of how to virtualize this stuff
> for memory stranding cases (VM gets a fixed mixture of fast and slow
> memory and should do it's own tiering).
>
> More details in the Documentation patch but typical commands are:
>
> $perf record -a -e cxl_hmu_mem0.0.0/epoch_type=0,access_type=6,\
> hotness_threshold=1024,epoch_multiplier=4,epoch_scale=4,range_base=0,\
> range_size=1024,randomized_downsampling=0,downsampling_factor=32,\
> hotness_granual=12
>
> $perf report --dump-raw-traces
>
> Example output. With a counter_width of 16 (0x10) the least significant
> 4 bytes are the counter value and the unit index is bits 16-63.
> Here all units are over the threshold and the indexes are 0,1,2 etc.
>
> . ... CXL_HMU data: size 33512 bytes
> Header 0: units: 29c counter_width 10
> Header 1 : deadbeef
> 0000000000000283
> 0000000000010364
> 0000000000020366
> 000000000003033c
> 0000000000040343
> 00000000000502ff
> 000000000006030d
> 000000000007031a
>
> Which will produce a list of hotness entries.
> Bits[N-1:0] counter value
> Bits[63:N] Unit ID (combine with unit size and DPA base + HDM decoder
> config to get to a Host Physical Address)
>
> Specific RFC questions.
> - What should be in the header added to the aux buffer.
> Currently just the minimum is provided. Number of records
> and the counter width needed to decode them.
> - Should we reset the counters when doing sampling "-F X"
> If the frequency is higher than the epoch we never see any hot units.
> If so, when should we reset them?
>
> Note testing has been light and on emulation only + as perf tool is
> a pain to build on a striped back VM, build testing has all be on
> arm64 so far. The driver loads though on both arm64 and x86 so
> any problems are likely in the perf tool arch specific code
> which is build tested (on wrong machine)
FWIW, runs on x86. However, it triggers a lockdep warning in
both start and stop due to the spin lock. Something to tidy up for
RFCv2.
J
>
> The QEMU emulation needs some cleanup, but I should be able to post
> that shortly to let people actually play with this. There are lots
> of open questions there on how 'right' we want the emulation to be
> and what counting uarch to emulate.
>
> Jonathan Cameron (4):
> cxl: Register devices for CXL Hotness Monitoring Units (CHMU)
> cxl: Hotness Monitoring Unit via a Perf AUX Buffer.
> perf: Add support for CXL Hotness Monitoring Units (CHMU)
> hwtrace: Document CXL Hotness Monitoring Unit driver
>
> Documentation/trace/cxl-hmu.rst | 197 +++++++
> Documentation/trace/index.rst | 1 +
> drivers/cxl/Kconfig | 6 +
> drivers/cxl/Makefile | 3 +
> drivers/cxl/core/Makefile | 1 +
> drivers/cxl/core/core.h | 1 +
> drivers/cxl/core/hmu.c | 64 ++
> drivers/cxl/core/port.c | 2 +
> drivers/cxl/core/regs.c | 14 +
> drivers/cxl/cxl.h | 5 +
> drivers/cxl/cxlpci.h | 1 +
> drivers/cxl/hmu.c | 880 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> drivers/cxl/hmu.h | 23 +
> drivers/cxl/pci.c | 26 +-
> tools/perf/arch/arm/util/auxtrace.c | 58 ++
> tools/perf/arch/x86/util/auxtrace.c | 76 +++
> tools/perf/util/Build | 1 +
> tools/perf/util/auxtrace.c | 4 +
> tools/perf/util/auxtrace.h | 1 +
> tools/perf/util/cxl-hmu.c | 367 ++++++++++++
> tools/perf/util/cxl-hmu.h | 18 +
> 21 files changed, 1748 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
> create mode 100644 Documentation/trace/cxl-hmu.rst
> create mode 100644 drivers/cxl/core/hmu.c
> create mode 100644 drivers/cxl/hmu.c
> create mode 100644 drivers/cxl/hmu.h
> create mode 100644 tools/perf/util/cxl-hmu.c
> create mode 100644 tools/perf/util/cxl-hmu.h
>
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Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-11-21 10:18 Jonathan Cameron
2024-11-21 10:18 ` [RFC PATCH 1/4] cxl: Register devices for CXL Hotness Monitoring Units (CHMU) Jonathan Cameron
[not found] ` <CGME20250103052421epcas5p4a1a917ba5d367dfccec91d4522666ca0@epcas5p4.samsung.com>
2025-01-03 5:16 ` Neeraj Kumar
2025-01-03 12:07 ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-06-19 1:47 ` Yuquan Wang
2025-06-19 10:11 ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-08-08 8:45 ` Yuquan Wang
2024-11-21 10:18 ` [RFC PATCH 2/4] cxl: Hotness Monitoring Unit via a Perf AUX Buffer Jonathan Cameron
2024-11-21 10:18 ` [RFC PATCH 3/4] perf: Add support for CXL Hotness Monitoring Units (CHMU) Jonathan Cameron
2024-11-21 10:18 ` [RFC PATCH 4/4] hwtrace: Document CXL Hotness Monitoring Unit driver Jonathan Cameron
[not found] ` <CGME20250103052702epcas5p3f7eea83ac70ba7147e0de7fb30f90a62@epcas5p3.samsung.com>
2025-01-03 5:19 ` Neeraj Kumar
2024-11-21 13:47 ` Jonathan Cameron [this message]
2024-11-21 14:24 ` [RFC PATCH 0/4] CXL Hotness Monitoring Unit perf driver Gregory Price
2024-11-21 14:58 ` Jonathan Cameron
2024-11-21 15:49 ` Gregory Price
2024-11-22 20:08 ` SeongJae Park
2024-11-27 16:34 ` Jonathan Cameron
2024-12-04 12:35 ` [EXT] " Ajay Joshi
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2025-01-03 5:27 ` Neeraj Kumar
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