From: Hillf Danton <hdanton@sina.com>
To: Lorenzo Stoakes <lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com>
Cc: Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com>, Jann Horn <jannh@google.com>,
linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH] docs/mm: add VMA locks documentation
Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2024 19:07:17 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20241107110717.3441-1-hdanton@sina.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20241101185033.131880-1-lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com>
On Fri, 1 Nov 2024 18:50:33 +0000 Lorenzo Stoakes <lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com>
>
> Locking around VMAs is complicated and confusing. While we have a number of
> disparate comments scattered around the place, we seem to be reaching a
> level of complexity that justifies a serious effort at clearly documenting
> how locks are expected to be interacted with when it comes to interacting
> with mm_struct and vm_area_struct objects.
>
> This is especially pertinent as regards efforts to find sensible
> abstractions for these fundamental objects within the kernel rust
> abstraction whose compiler strictly requires some means of expressing these
> rules (and through this expression can help self-document these
> requirements as well as enforce them which is an exciting concept).
>
> The document limits scope to mmap and VMA locks and those that are
> immediately adjacent and relevant to them - so additionally covers page
> table locking as this is so very closely tied to VMA operations (and relies
> upon us handling these correctly).
>
> The document tries to cover some of the nastier and more confusing edge
> cases and concerns especially around lock ordering and page table teardown.
>
What is missed is the clear guide to the correct locking order.
Is the order below correct for instance?
lock vma
lock vma->vm_mm
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-11-07 11:07 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-11-01 18:50 Lorenzo Stoakes
2024-11-01 20:58 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2024-11-01 22:41 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2024-11-01 23:48 ` SeongJae Park
2024-11-04 13:02 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2024-11-04 13:47 ` Mike Rapoport
2024-11-04 19:55 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2024-11-02 1:45 ` Jann Horn
2024-11-04 16:42 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2024-11-04 21:29 ` Jann Horn
2024-11-05 16:10 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2024-11-05 17:21 ` Jann Horn
2024-11-06 3:09 ` Qi Zheng
2024-11-06 18:09 ` Jann Horn
2024-11-07 7:07 ` Qi Zheng
2024-11-06 2:56 ` Qi Zheng
2024-11-06 11:28 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2024-11-07 6:47 ` Qi Zheng
2024-11-02 9:00 ` Mike Rapoport
2024-11-04 14:17 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2024-11-04 15:19 ` Mike Rapoport
2024-11-05 12:23 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2024-11-04 14:47 ` Alice Ryhl
2024-11-04 16:52 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2024-11-05 13:56 ` Alice Ryhl
2024-11-05 14:18 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2024-11-04 17:01 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2024-11-04 21:04 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2024-11-04 21:20 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2024-11-05 16:11 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2024-11-04 21:25 ` Jann Horn
2024-11-07 11:07 ` Hillf Danton [this message]
2024-11-07 11:15 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
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