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From: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
To: Yafang Shao <laoar.shao@gmail.com>
Cc: willy@infradead.org, linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm/readahead: Fix large folio support in async readahead
Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2024 20:06:53 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20241106200653.17640c022a94e0eec9276326@linux-foundation.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CALOAHbCTZAU2cBHQd7ThBwVS82PfN2XBaOkcEquFX3O2j=_uSw@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, 7 Nov 2024 11:39:36 +0800 Yafang Shao <laoar.shao@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Thu, Nov 7, 2024 at 5:03 AM Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org> wrote:
> >
> > On Wed,  6 Nov 2024 17:21:14 +0800 Yafang Shao <laoar.shao@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > When large folio support is enabled and read_ahead_kb is set to a smaller
> > > value, ra->size (4MB) may exceed the maximum allowed size (e.g., 128KB). To
> > > address this, we need to add a conditional check for such cases. However,
> > > this alone is insufficient, as users might set read_ahead_kb to a larger,
> > > non-hugepage-aligned value (e.g., 4MB + 128KB). In these instances, it is
> > > essential to explicitly align ra->size with the hugepage size.
> >
> > How much performance improvement is this likely to offer our users?
> 
> The performance boost comes from enabling the use of hugepages
> directly. Previously, users were unable to leverage large folios as
> expected. With this change, however, large folios are now usable as
> intended.

Thanks, but I was hoping for something quantitative.  Some nice before-
and-after testing?  How important/useful/impactful is this change?

> This improvement addresses a critical need in services like AI
> inference, which benefit substantially from hugetlbfs. However, using
> hugetlbfs effectively within containerized environments can be
> challenging. To overcome this limitation, we explored large folios as
> a more flexible and production-friendly alternative.
> 
> > IOW, should we consider backporting it?
> 
> We should consider backporting this change. We've already backported
> it to our local 6.1.y kernel, where it's performing well.
> The Fixes tag should ensure it will be included in the stable kernel, right?

For most subsystems, yes.  In MM an explicit cc:stable is needed. 
Along with a changelog which permits readers to understand why a
backport is proposed.


  reply	other threads:[~2024-11-07  4:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-11-06  9:21 Yafang Shao
2024-11-06 21:03 ` Andrew Morton
2024-11-07  3:39   ` Yafang Shao
2024-11-07  4:06     ` Andrew Morton [this message]
2024-11-07  6:01       ` Yafang Shao
2024-11-07  4:52 ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-11-07  5:55   ` Yafang Shao
2024-11-07 15:00     ` Matthew Wilcox

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