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From: Petr Tesarik <ptesarik@suse.com>
To: Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>
Cc: Thorsten Leemhuis <regressions@leemhuis.info>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@surriel.com>,
	Matthias <matthias@bodenbinder.de>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Linux kernel regressions list <regressions@lists.linux.dev>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux-MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	Yang Shi <yang@os.amperecomputing.com>,
	Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>
Subject: Re: darktable performance regression on AMD systems caused by "mm: align larger anonymous mappings on THP boundaries"
Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2024 16:14:36 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20241024161436.625579e3@mordecai.tesarici.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <9d7c73f6-1e1a-458b-93c6-3b44959022e0@suse.cz>

On Thu, 24 Oct 2024 15:29:35 +0200
Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz> wrote:

> On 10/24/24 13:13, Petr Tesarik wrote:
> > On Thu, 24 Oct 2024 12:56:27 +0200
> > Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz> wrote:
> >   
> >> On 10/24/24 12:49, Petr Tesarik wrote:  
> >> > On Thu, 24 Oct 2024 12:23:48 +0200
> >> > Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz> wrote:
> >> >     
> >> >> On 10/24/24 11:58, Vlastimil Babka wrote:    
> >> >> > On 10/24/24 09:45, Thorsten Leemhuis wrote:      
> >> >> >> Hi, Thorsten here, the Linux kernel's regression tracker.
> >> >> >> 
> >> >> >> Rik, I noticed a report about a regression in bugzilla.kernel.org that
> >> >> >> appears to be caused by the following change of yours:
> >> >> >> 
> >> >> >> efa7df3e3bb5da ("mm: align larger anonymous mappings on THP boundaries")
> >> >> >> [v6.7]
> >> >> >> 
> >> >> >> It might be one of those "some things got faster, a few things became
> >> >> >> slower" situations. Not sure. Felt odd that the reporter was able to
> >> >> >> reproduce it on two AMD systems, but not on a Intel system. Maybe there
> >> >> >> is a bug somewhere else that was exposed by this.      
> >> >> > 
> >> >> > It seems very similar to what we've seen with spec benchmarks such as cactus
> >> >> > and bisected to the same commit:
> >> >> > 
> >> >> > https://bugzilla.suse.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1229012
> >> >> > 
> >> >> > The exact regression varies per system. Intel regresses too but relatively
> >> >> > less. The theory is that there are many large-ish allocations that don't
> >> >> > have individual sizes aligned to 2MB and would have been merged, commit
> >> >> > efa7df3e3bb5da causes them to become separate areas where each aligns its
> >> >> > start at 2MB boundary and there are gaps between. This (gaps and vma
> >> >> > fragmentation) itself is not great, but most of the problem seemed to be
> >> >> > from the start alignment, which togethter with the access pattern causes
> >> >> > more TLB or cache missess due to limited associtativity.
> >> >> > 
> >> >> > So maybe darktable has a similar problem. A simple candidate fix could
> >> >> > change commit efa7df3e3bb5da so that the mapping size has to be a multiple
> >> >> > of THP size (2MB) in order to become aligned, right now it's enough if it's
> >> >> > THP sized or larger.      
> >> >> 
> >> >> Maybe this could be enough to fix the issue? (on 6.12-rc4)    
> >> > 
> >> > 
> >> > Yes, this should work. I was unsure if thp_get_unmapped_area_vmflags()
> >> > differs in other ways from mm_get_unmapped_area_vmflags(), which might
> >> > still be relevant. I mean, does mm_get_unmapped_area_vmflags() also
> >> > prefer to allocate THPs if the virtual memory block is large enough?    
> >> 
> >> Well any sufficiently large area spanning a PMD aligned/sized block (either
> >> a result of a single allocation or merging of several allocations) can
> >> become populated by THPs (at least in those aligned blocks), and the
> >> preference depends on system-wide THP settings and madvise(MADV_HUGEPAGE) or
> >> prctl.
> >> 
> >> But mm_get_unmapped_area_vmflags() will AFAIK not try to align the area to
> >> PMD size like the thp_ version would, even if the request is large enough.  
> > 
> > Then it sounds like exactly what we want. But I prefer to move the
> > check down to __thp_get_unmapped_area() like this:  
> 
> I wanted to limit the fix to the place commit efa7df3e3bb5da changes, i.e.
> anonymous mappings, because there are other callers of
> __thp_get_unmapped_area(), namely the filesystems via
> thp_get_unmapped_area() and I wasn't sure if that wouldn't regress them. But
> since you suggested I had a brief look now...
> 
> > diff --git a/mm/huge_memory.c b/mm/huge_memory.c
> > index 2fb328880b50..8d80f3af5525 100644
> > --- a/mm/huge_memory.c
> > +++ b/mm/huge_memory.c
> > @@ -1082,6 +1082,9 @@ static unsigned long __thp_get_unmapped_area(struct file *filp,
> >  	if (!IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_64BIT) || in_compat_syscall())
> >  		return 0;
> >  
> > +	if (!IS_ALIGNED(len, size))
> > +		return 0;  
> 
> I think the filesystem might be asked to create a mapping for e.g. a
> [1MB, 4MB] range from a file, thus the offset would be 1MB (with anonymous
> pages an off=0 is passed) and the current implementation would try to do the
> right thing for that (align the [2MB, 4MB] range to THP) but after your
> patch it would see len is 3MB and give up, no?

I'm probably showing my ignorance, but I didn't know it is somehow
beneficial to align THP boundaries with corresponding file offsets. In
that case you're right, and the check should be limited to anonymous
mappings.

Petr T

> > +
> >  	if (off_end <= off_align || (off_end - off_align) < size)
> >  		return 0;
> >    
> 



  reply	other threads:[~2024-10-24 14:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-10-24  7:45 Thorsten Leemhuis
2024-10-24  9:58 ` Vlastimil Babka
2024-10-24 10:23   ` Vlastimil Babka
2024-10-24 10:49     ` Petr Tesarik
2024-10-24 10:56       ` Vlastimil Babka
2024-10-24 11:13         ` Petr Tesarik
2024-10-24 13:29           ` Vlastimil Babka
2024-10-24 14:14             ` Petr Tesarik [this message]
2024-10-24 11:20     ` Matthias Bodenbinder
2024-10-24 15:12 ` [PATCH hotfix 6.12] mm, mmap: limit THP aligment of anonymous mappings to PMD-aligned sizes Vlastimil Babka
2024-10-24 15:47   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2024-10-24 16:00     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2024-10-24 16:04     ` Vlastimil Babka
2024-10-24 16:17       ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2024-10-28 13:45     ` Michael Matz
2024-10-24 18:32   ` Yang Shi

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