From: Barry Song <21cnbao@gmail.com>
To: wangkefeng.wang@huawei.com
Cc: 21cnbao@gmail.com, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
baolin.wang@linux.alibaba.com, david@redhat.com,
hughd@google.com, linux-mm@kvack.org, willy@infradead.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm: shmem: convert to use folio_zero_range()
Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2024 11:56:03 +1300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20241022225603.10491-1-21cnbao@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <06d99b89-17ad-447e-a8f1-8e220b5688ac@huawei.com>
On Wed, Oct 23, 2024 at 4:10 AM Kefeng Wang <wangkefeng.wang@huawei.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> On 2024/10/22 4:32, Barry Song wrote:
> > On Tue, Oct 22, 2024 at 4:33 AM Kefeng Wang <wangkefeng.wang@huawei.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 2024/10/21 17:17, Barry Song wrote:
> >>> On Mon, Oct 21, 2024 at 9:14 PM Kefeng Wang <wangkefeng.wang@huawei.com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On 2024/10/21 15:55, Barry Song wrote:
> >>>>> On Mon, Oct 21, 2024 at 8:47 PM Barry Song <21cnbao@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Mon, Oct 21, 2024 at 7:09 PM Kefeng Wang <wangkefeng.wang@huawei.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On 2024/10/21 13:38, Barry Song wrote:
> >>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 21, 2024 at 6:16 PM Kefeng Wang <wangkefeng.wang@huawei.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> On 2024/10/21 12:15, Barry Song wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Oct 18, 2024 at 8:48 PM Kefeng Wang <wangkefeng.wang@huawei.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> On 2024/10/18 15:32, Kefeng Wang wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> On 2024/10/18 13:23, Barry Song wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Oct 18, 2024 at 6:20 PM Kefeng Wang
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> <wangkefeng.wang@huawei.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2024/10/17 23:09, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 17, 2024 at 10:25:04PM +0800, Kefeng Wang wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Directly use folio_zero_range() to cleanup code.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Are you sure there's no performance regression introduced by this?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> clear_highpage() is often optimised in ways that we can't optimise for
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a plain memset(). On the other hand, if the folio is large, maybe a
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> modern CPU will be able to do better than clear-one-page-at-a-time.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Right, I missing this, clear_page might be better than memset, I change
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> this one when look at the shmem_writepage(), which already convert to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> use folio_zero_range() from clear_highpage(), also I grep
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> folio_zero_range(), there are some other to use folio_zero_range().
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> fs/bcachefs/fs-io-buffered.c: folio_zero_range(folio, 0,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> folio_size(folio));
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> fs/bcachefs/fs-io-buffered.c: folio_zero_range(f,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 0, folio_size(f));
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> fs/bcachefs/fs-io-buffered.c: folio_zero_range(f,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 0, folio_size(f));
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> fs/libfs.c: folio_zero_range(folio, 0, folio_size(folio));
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> fs/ntfs3/frecord.c: folio_zero_range(folio, 0,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> folio_size(folio));
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> mm/page_io.c: folio_zero_range(folio, 0, folio_size(folio));
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> mm/shmem.c: folio_zero_range(folio, 0, folio_size(folio));
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> IOW, what performance testing have you done with this patch?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> No performance test before, but I write a testcase,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1) allocate N large folios (folio_alloc(PMD_ORDER))
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2) then calculate the diff(us) when clear all N folios
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> clear_highpage/folio_zero_range/folio_zero_user
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3) release N folios
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the result(run 5 times) shown below on my machine,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> N=1,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> clear_highpage folio_zero_range folio_zero_user
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1 69 74 177
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2 57 62 168
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3 54 58 234
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4 54 58 157
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 5 56 62 148
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> avg 58 62.8 176.8
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> N=100
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> clear_highpage folio_zero_range folio_zero_user
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1 11015 11309 32833
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2 10385 11110 49751
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3 10369 11056 33095
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4 10332 11017 33106
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 5 10483 11000 49032
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> avg 10516.8 11098.4 39563.4
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> N=512
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> clear_highpage folio_zero_range folio_zero_user
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1 55560 60055 156876
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2 55485 60024 157132
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3 55474 60129 156658
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4 55555 59867 157259
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 5 55528 59932 157108
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> avg 55520.4 60001.4 157006.6
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> folio_zero_user with many cond_resched(), so time fluctuates a lot,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> clear_highpage is better folio_zero_range as you said.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe add a new helper to convert all folio_zero_range(folio, 0,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> folio_size(folio))
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> to use clear_highpage + flush_dcache_folio?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> If this also improves performance for other existing callers of
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> folio_zero_range(), then that's a positive outcome.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> ...
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> hi Kefeng,
> >>>>>>>>>> what's your point? providing a helper like clear_highfolio() or similar?
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Yes, from above test, using clear_highpage/flush_dcache_folio is better
> >>>>>>>>> than using folio_zero_range() for folio zero(especially for large
> >>>>>>>>> folio), so I'd like to add a new helper, maybe name it folio_zero()
> >>>>>>>>> since it zero the whole folio.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> we already have a helper like folio_zero_user()?
> >>>>>>>> it is not good enough?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Since it is with many cond_resched(), the performance is worst...
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Not exactly? It should have zero cost for a preemptible kernel.
> >>>>>> For a non-preemptible kernel, it helps avoid clearing the folio
> >>>>>> from occupying the CPU and starving other processes, right?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> --- a/mm/shmem.c
> >>>>> +++ b/mm/shmem.c
> >>>>>
> >>>>> @@ -2393,10 +2393,7 @@ static int shmem_get_folio_gfp(struct inode
> >>>>> *inode, pgoff_t index,
> >>>>> * it now, lest undo on failure cancel our earlier guarantee.
> >>>>> */
> >>>>>
> >>>>> if (sgp != SGP_WRITE && !folio_test_uptodate(folio)) {
> >>>>> - long i, n = folio_nr_pages(folio);
> >>>>> -
> >>>>> - for (i = 0; i < n; i++)
> >>>>> - clear_highpage(folio_page(folio, i));
> >>>>> + folio_zero_user(folio, vmf->address);
> >>>>> flush_dcache_folio(folio);
> >>>>> folio_mark_uptodate(folio);
> >>>>> }
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Do we perform better or worse with the following?
> >>>>
> >>>> Here is for SGP_FALLOC, vmf = NULL, we could use folio_zero_user(folio,
> >>>> 0), I think the performance is worse, will retest once I can access
> >>>> hardware.
> >>>
> >>> Perhaps, since the current code uses clear_hugepage(). Does using
> >>> index << PAGE_SHIFT as the addr_hint offer any benefit?
> >>>
> >>
> >> when use folio_zero_user(), the performance is vary bad with above
> >> fallocate test(mount huge=always),
> >>
> >> folio_zero_range clear_highpage folio_zero_user
> >> real 0m1.214s 0m1.111s 0m3.159s
> >> user 0m0.000s 0m0.000s 0m0.000s
> >> sys 0m1.210s 0m1.109s 0m3.152s
> >>
> >> I tried with addr_hint = 0/index << PAGE_SHIFT, no obvious different.
> >
> > Interesting. Does your kernel have preemption disabled or
> > preemption_debug enabled?
>
> ARM64 server, CONFIG_PREEMPT_NONE=y
this explains why the performance is much worse.
>
> >
> > If not, it makes me wonder whether folio_zero_user() in
> > alloc_anon_folio() is actually improving performance as expected,
> > compared to the simpler folio_zero() you plan to implement. :-)
>
> Yes, maybe, the folio_zero_user(was clear_huge_page) is from
> 47ad8475c000 ("thp: clear_copy_huge_page"), so original clear_huge_page
> is used in HugeTLB, clear PUD size maybe spend many time, but for PMD or
> other size of large folio, cond_resched is not necessary since we
> already have some folio_zero_range() to clear large folio, and no issue
> was reported.
probably worth an optimization. calling cond_resched() for each page
seems too aggressive and useless.
diff --git a/mm/memory.c b/mm/memory.c
index 0f614523b9f4..5fc38347d782 100644
--- a/mm/memory.c
+++ b/mm/memory.c
@@ -6738,6 +6738,19 @@ EXPORT_SYMBOL(__might_fault);
#endif
#if defined(CONFIG_TRANSPARENT_HUGEPAGE) || defined(CONFIG_HUGETLBFS)
+/*
+ * To prevent process_huge_page() from starving other processes,
+ * we allow other processes a chance with each batch.
+ */
+static inline void batched_cond_resched(int *nr)
+{
+#define BATCHED_PROCESS_NR 64
+ if (*nr++ < BATCHED_PROCESS_NR)
+ return;
+ cond_resched();
+ *nr = 0;
+}
+
/*
* Process all subpages of the specified huge page with the specified
* operation. The target subpage will be processed last to keep its
@@ -6748,7 +6761,7 @@ static inline int process_huge_page(
int (*process_subpage)(unsigned long addr, int idx, void *arg),
void *arg)
{
- int i, n, base, l, ret;
+ int i, n, base, l, ret, processed_nr = 0;
unsigned long addr = addr_hint &
~(((unsigned long)nr_pages << PAGE_SHIFT) - 1);
@@ -6761,7 +6774,7 @@ static inline int process_huge_page(
l = n;
/* Process subpages at the end of huge page */
for (i = nr_pages - 1; i >= 2 * n; i--) {
- cond_resched();
+ batched_cond_resched(&processed_nr);
ret = process_subpage(addr + i * PAGE_SIZE, i, arg);
if (ret)
return ret;
@@ -6772,7 +6785,7 @@ static inline int process_huge_page(
l = nr_pages - n;
/* Process subpages at the begin of huge page */
for (i = 0; i < base; i++) {
- cond_resched();
+ batched_cond_resched(&processed_nr);
ret = process_subpage(addr + i * PAGE_SIZE, i, arg);
if (ret)
return ret;
@@ -6786,11 +6799,11 @@ static inline int process_huge_page(
int left_idx = base + i;
int right_idx = base + 2 * l - 1 - i;
- cond_resched();
+ batched_cond_resched(&processed_nr);
ret = process_subpage(addr + left_idx * PAGE_SIZE, left_idx, arg);
if (ret)
return ret;
- cond_resched();
+ batched_cond_resched(&processed_nr);
ret = process_subpage(addr + right_idx * PAGE_SIZE, right_idx, arg);
if (ret)
return ret;
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-10-22 22:56 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-10-17 14:25 [PATCH] mm: shmem: avoid repeated flush dcache in shmem_writepage() Kefeng Wang
2024-10-17 14:25 ` [PATCH] mm: shmem: convert to use folio_zero_range() Kefeng Wang
2024-10-17 15:09 ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-10-18 5:20 ` Kefeng Wang
2024-10-18 5:23 ` Barry Song
2024-10-18 7:32 ` Kefeng Wang
2024-10-18 7:47 ` Kefeng Wang
2024-10-21 4:15 ` Barry Song
2024-10-21 5:16 ` Kefeng Wang
2024-10-21 5:38 ` Barry Song
2024-10-21 6:09 ` Kefeng Wang
2024-10-21 7:47 ` Barry Song
2024-10-21 7:55 ` Barry Song
2024-10-21 8:14 ` Kefeng Wang
2024-10-21 9:17 ` Barry Song
2024-10-21 15:33 ` Kefeng Wang
2024-10-21 20:32 ` Barry Song
2024-10-22 15:10 ` Kefeng Wang
2024-10-22 22:56 ` Barry Song [this message]
2024-10-24 10:10 ` Kefeng Wang
2024-10-25 2:59 ` Huang, Ying
2024-10-25 7:42 ` Kefeng Wang
2024-10-25 7:47 ` Huang, Ying
2024-10-25 10:21 ` Kefeng Wang
2024-10-25 12:21 ` Huang, Ying
2024-10-25 13:35 ` Kefeng Wang
2024-10-28 2:39 ` Huang, Ying
2024-10-28 6:37 ` Kefeng Wang
2024-10-28 11:41 ` Kefeng Wang
2024-10-30 1:26 ` Huang, Ying
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