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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Nicholas Piggin <npiggin@gmail.com>,
	Michael Ellerman <mpe@ellerman.id.au>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
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	"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org>,
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Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 0/4] sched+mm: Track lazy active mm existence with hazard pointers
Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2024 09:06:27 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20241007070627.GC18071@noisy.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAHk-=whvxq3378vOn++=ZiOQc9=4N-3ejUWr+dXEJ5ti43kT6w@mail.gmail.com>

On Sat, Oct 05, 2024 at 09:56:24AM -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> On Sat, 5 Oct 2024 at 09:16, Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> wrote:
> >
> > On Wed, Oct 02, 2024 at 10:39:15AM -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> > > So I think the real issue is that "active_mm" is an old hack from a
> > > bygone era when we didn't have the (much more involved) full TLB
> > > tracking.
> >
> > I still seem to have these patches that neither Andy nor I ever managed
> > to find time to finish:
> >
> >   https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/peterz/queue.git/log/?h=x86/lazy
> 
> Yes, that looks very much like what I had in mind.
> 
> In fact, it looks a lot smaller and simpler than what my mental model was.
> 
> I was thinking I'd do it by removing "active_mm" entirely from 'struct
> task_struct', and turn it into a per-cpu variable instead, and then
> try to massage that into some global new world order. That patch
> series you point to seems to be much simpler and clearer.
> 
> Of course, you also say "never managed to finish", so presumably
> there's something completely broken in that series, and it doesn't
> actually work?

Last time I tried it, it worked fine. I just didn't get around to
actually fully thinking it trough and making sure nothing subtle was
broken etc. Pesky details and such..


      reply	other threads:[~2024-10-07  7:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-10-02  1:02 Mathieu Desnoyers
2024-10-02  1:02 ` [RFC PATCH 1/4] compiler.h: Introduce ptr_eq() to preserve address dependency Mathieu Desnoyers
2024-10-03  0:08   ` Joel Fernandes
2024-10-03 14:19     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2024-10-03 22:09       ` Joel Fernandes
2024-10-02  1:02 ` [RFC PATCH 2/4] Documentation: RCU: Refer to ptr_eq() Mathieu Desnoyers
2024-10-02  1:02 ` [RFC PATCH 3/4] hp: Implement Hazard Pointers Mathieu Desnoyers
2024-10-03  0:24   ` Boqun Feng
2024-10-03 13:30     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2024-10-07 13:47       ` Boqun Feng
2024-10-07 14:52         ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2024-10-02  1:02 ` [RFC PATCH 4/4] sched+mm: Use hazard pointers to track lazy active mm existence Mathieu Desnoyers
2024-10-02 14:09 ` [RFC PATCH 0/4] sched+mm: Track lazy active mm existence with hazard pointers Paul E. McKenney
2024-10-02 15:26   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2024-10-02 15:33     ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-10-02 15:36       ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2024-10-02 15:53         ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2024-10-02 15:58           ` Jens Axboe
2024-10-02 16:02             ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2024-10-02 16:14               ` Jens Axboe
2024-10-02 17:39 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-10-05 16:15   ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-10-05 16:56     ` Linus Torvalds
2024-10-07  7:06       ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]

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