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From: Joey Gouly <joey.gouly@arm.com>
To: Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>
Cc: Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>,
	Kevin Brodsky <kevin.brodsky@arm.com>,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, nd@arm.com,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 06/30] arm64: context switch POR_EL0 register
Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2024 13:48:35 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20240912124835.GA1220495@e124191.cambridge.arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20240912105017.GA22788@willie-the-truck>

On Thu, Sep 12, 2024 at 11:50:18AM +0100, Will Deacon wrote:
> Hi Dave,
> 
> On Wed, Sep 11, 2024 at 08:33:54AM -0700, Dave Hansen wrote:
> > On 9/11/24 08:01, Kevin Brodsky wrote:
> > > On 22/08/2024 17:10, Joey Gouly wrote:
> > >> @@ -371,6 +382,9 @@ int copy_thread(struct task_struct *p, const struct kernel_clone_args *args)
> > >>  		if (system_supports_tpidr2())
> > >>  			p->thread.tpidr2_el0 = read_sysreg_s(SYS_TPIDR2_EL0);
> > >>  
> > >> +		if (system_supports_poe())
> > >> +			p->thread.por_el0 = read_sysreg_s(SYS_POR_EL0);
> > > Here we are only reloading POR_EL0's value if the target is a user
> > > thread. However, as this series stands, POR_EL0 is also relevant to
> > > kthreads, because any uaccess or GUP done from a kthread will also be
> > > checked against POR_EL0. This is especially important in cases like the
> > > io_uring kthread, which accesses the memory of the user process that
> > > spawned it. To prevent such a kthread from inheriting a stale value of
> > > POR_EL0, it seems that we should reload POR_EL0's value in all cases
> > > (user and kernel thread).
> > 
> > The problem with this is trying to figure out which POR_EL0 to use.  The
> > kthread could have been spawned ages ago and might not have a POR_EL0
> > which is very different from the current value of any of the threads in
> > the process right now.
> > 
> > There's also no great way for a kthread to reach out and grab an updated
> > value.  It's all completely inherently racy.
> > 
> > > Other approaches could also be considered (e.g. resetting POR_EL0 to
> > > unrestricted when creating a kthread), see my reply on v4 [1].
> > 
> > I kinda think this is the only way to go.  It's the only sensible,
> > predictable way.  I _think_ it's what x86 will end up doing with PKRU,
> > but there's been enough churn there that I'd need to go double check
> > what happens in practice.
> 
> I agree.
> 
> > Either way, it would be nice to get an io_uring test in here that
> > actually spawns kthreads:
> > 
> > 	tools/testing/selftests/mm/protection_keys.c
> 
> It would be good to update Documentation/core-api/protection-keys.rst
> as well, since the example with read() raises more questions than it
> answers!
> 
> Kevin, Joey -- I've got this series queued in arm64 as-is, so perhaps
> you could send some patches on top so we can iron this out in time for
> 6.12? I'll also be at LPC next week if you're about.

I found the code in arch/x86 that does this, I must have missed this previously.

arch/x86/kernel/process.c: int copy_thread()                                                                                                                   

        /* Kernel thread ? */                                                                                                                                                                  
        if (unlikely(p->flags & PF_KTHREAD)) {                                                                                                                                                 
                p->thread.pkru = pkru_get_init_value();                                                                                                                                        
                memset(childregs, 0, sizeof(struct pt_regs));                                                                                                                                  
                kthread_frame_init(frame, args->fn, args->fn_arg);                                                                                                                             
                return 0;                                                                                                                                                                      
        }

I can send a similar patch for arm64.  I have no idea how to write io_uring
code, so looking for examples I can work with to get a test written. Might just
send the arm64 fix first, if that's fine?

Thanks,
Joey


  reply	other threads:[~2024-09-12 12:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 77+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-08-22 15:10 [PATCH v5 00/30] Permission Overlay Extension Joey Gouly
2024-08-22 15:10 ` [PATCH v5 01/30] powerpc/mm: add ARCH_PKEY_BITS to Kconfig Joey Gouly
2024-08-22 15:10 ` [PATCH v5 02/30] x86/mm: " Joey Gouly
2024-08-22 15:10 ` [PATCH v5 03/30] mm: use ARCH_PKEY_BITS to define VM_PKEY_BITN Joey Gouly
2024-08-22 15:10 ` [PATCH v5 04/30] arm64: disable trapping of POR_EL0 to EL2 Joey Gouly
2024-08-23 13:42   ` Will Deacon
2024-08-22 15:10 ` [PATCH v5 05/30] arm64: cpufeature: add Permission Overlay Extension cpucap Joey Gouly
2024-08-22 15:10 ` [PATCH v5 06/30] arm64: context switch POR_EL0 register Joey Gouly
2024-08-23 14:45   ` Will Deacon
2024-08-23 16:41     ` Catalin Marinas
2024-08-23 17:08       ` Will Deacon
2024-08-23 18:40         ` Catalin Marinas
2024-08-27 11:38           ` Will Deacon
2024-09-02 19:08             ` Catalin Marinas
2024-09-03 14:54               ` Joey Gouly
2024-09-04 10:22                 ` Will Deacon
2024-09-04 11:32                   ` Joey Gouly
2024-09-04 11:43                     ` Will Deacon
2024-09-04 12:55                       ` Joey Gouly
2024-09-04 16:17                         ` Will Deacon
2024-09-04 17:05                           ` Marc Zyngier
2024-09-05 10:36                           ` Joey Gouly
2024-09-04 11:38                   ` Catalin Marinas
2024-09-11 15:01   ` Kevin Brodsky
2024-09-11 15:33     ` Dave Hansen
2024-09-12 10:50       ` Will Deacon
2024-09-12 12:48         ` Joey Gouly [this message]
2024-09-13 15:14           ` Will Deacon
2024-09-22  5:49       ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2024-08-22 15:10 ` [PATCH v5 07/30] KVM: arm64: Save/restore POE registers Joey Gouly
2024-08-22 15:10 ` [PATCH v5 08/30] KVM: arm64: make kvm_at() take an OP_AT_* Joey Gouly
2024-08-23 13:48   ` Will Deacon
2024-08-23 14:24     ` Marc Zyngier
2024-08-30  8:01     ` Marc Zyngier
2024-08-30  9:05       ` Will Deacon
2024-08-30 11:58         ` Marc Zyngier
2024-08-30  9:25   ` Will Deacon
2024-08-30 11:23     ` Marc Zyngier
2024-08-30 11:35       ` Joey Gouly
2024-08-22 15:10 ` [PATCH v5 09/30] KVM: arm64: use `at s1e1a` for POE Joey Gouly
2024-08-22 15:10 ` [PATCH v5 10/30] KVM: arm64: Sanitise ID_AA64MMFR3_EL1 Joey Gouly
2024-08-22 15:10 ` [PATCH v5 11/30] arm64: enable the Permission Overlay Extension for EL0 Joey Gouly
2024-08-22 15:10 ` [PATCH v5 12/30] arm64: re-order MTE VM_ flags Joey Gouly
2024-08-22 15:10 ` [PATCH v5 13/30] arm64: add POIndex defines Joey Gouly
2024-08-22 15:10 ` [PATCH v5 14/30] arm64: convert protection key into vm_flags and pgprot values Joey Gouly
2024-08-22 15:10 ` [PATCH v5 15/30] arm64: mask out POIndex when modifying a PTE Joey Gouly
2024-08-22 15:10 ` [PATCH v5 16/30] arm64: handle PKEY/POE faults Joey Gouly
2024-08-29 17:55   ` Mark Brown
2024-09-03 14:50     ` Joey Gouly
2024-09-03 15:29       ` Joey Gouly
2024-08-22 15:11 ` [PATCH v5 17/30] arm64: add pte_access_permitted_no_overlay() Joey Gouly
2024-08-22 15:11 ` [PATCH v5 18/30] arm64: implement PKEYS support Joey Gouly
2024-08-22 15:11 ` [PATCH v5 19/30] arm64: add POE signal support Joey Gouly
2024-09-24 11:27   ` Kevin Brodsky
2024-09-24 15:04     ` Dave Martin
2024-10-09 14:43     ` Will Deacon
2024-10-14 17:10       ` Will Deacon
2024-10-15  9:59         ` Joey Gouly
2024-10-15 11:37           ` Mark Brown
2024-10-15 11:41           ` Will Deacon
2024-10-15 12:25             ` Joey Gouly
2024-10-15 13:26               ` Mark Brown
2024-10-17  7:44               ` Kevin Brodsky
2024-10-15 13:39             ` Dave Martin
2024-10-15 15:01             ` Catalin Marinas
2024-10-17 14:00               ` Kevin Brodsky
2024-08-22 15:11 ` [PATCH v5 20/30] arm64/ptrace: add support for FEAT_POE Joey Gouly
2024-08-22 15:11 ` [PATCH v5 21/30] arm64: enable POE and PIE to coexist Joey Gouly
2024-08-22 15:11 ` [PATCH v5 22/30] arm64: enable PKEY support for CPUs with S1POE Joey Gouly
2024-08-22 15:11 ` [PATCH v5 23/30] arm64: add Permission Overlay Extension Kconfig Joey Gouly
2024-08-22 15:11 ` [PATCH v5 24/30] kselftest/arm64: move get_header() Joey Gouly
2024-08-22 15:11 ` [PATCH v5 25/30] selftests: mm: move fpregs printing Joey Gouly
2024-08-22 15:11 ` [PATCH v5 26/30] selftests: mm: make protection_keys test work on arm64 Joey Gouly
2024-08-22 15:11 ` [PATCH v5 27/30] kselftest/arm64: add HWCAP test for FEAT_S1POE Joey Gouly
2024-08-22 15:11 ` [PATCH v5 28/30] kselftest/arm64: parse POE_MAGIC in a signal frame Joey Gouly
2024-08-22 15:11 ` [PATCH v5 29/30] kselftest/arm64: Add test case for POR_EL0 signal frame records Joey Gouly
2024-08-22 15:11 ` [PATCH v5 30/30] KVM: selftests: get-reg-list: add Permission Overlay registers Joey Gouly

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