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From: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
To: Jiaqi Yan <jiaqiyan@google.com>
Cc: nao.horiguchi@gmail.com, linmiaohe@huawei.com,
	jane.chu@oracle.com, ioworker0@gmail.com, muchun.song@linux.dev,
	shuah@kernel.org, corbet@lwn.net, osalvador@suse.de,
	rientjes@google.com, duenwen@google.com, fvdl@google.com,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kselftest@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-doc@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 1/3] mm/memory-failure: userspace controls soft-offlining pages
Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2024 12:13:48 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20240617121348.4ee672a1d6bc9202b3ad0e08@linux-foundation.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20240617170545.3820912-2-jiaqiyan@google.com>

On Mon, 17 Jun 2024 17:05:43 +0000 Jiaqi Yan <jiaqiyan@google.com> wrote:

> Correctable memory errors are very common on servers with large
> amount of memory, and are corrected by ECC. Soft offline is kernel's
> additional recovery handling for memory pages having (excessive)
> corrected memory errors. Impacted page is migrated to a healthy page
> if it is in-use; the original page is discarded for any future use.
> 
> The actual policy on whether (and when) to soft offline should be
> maintained by userspace, especially in case of an 1G HugeTLB page.
> Soft-offline dissolves the HugeTLB page, either in-use or free, into
> chunks of 4K pages, reducing HugeTLB pool capacity by 1 hugepage.
> If userspace has not acknowledged such behavior, it may be surprised
> when later failed to mmap hugepages due to lack of hugepages.
> In case of a transparent hugepage, it will be split into 4K pages
> as well; userspace will stop enjoying the transparent performance.
> 
> In addition, discarding the entire 1G HugeTLB page only because of
> corrected memory errors sounds very costly and kernel better not
> doing under the hood. But today there are at least 2 such cases
> doing so:
> 1. GHES driver sees both GHES_SEV_CORRECTED and
>    CPER_SEC_ERROR_THRESHOLD_EXCEEDED after parsing CPER.
> 2. RAS Correctable Errors Collector counts correctable errors per
>    PFN and when the counter for a PFN reaches threshold
> In both cases, userspace has no control of the soft offline performed
> by kernel's memory failure recovery.
> 
> This commit gives userspace the control of softofflining any page:
> kernel only soft offlines raw page / transparent hugepage / HugeTLB
> hugepage if userspace has agreed to. The interface to userspace is a
> new sysctl at /proc/sys/vm/enable_soft_offline. By default its value
> is set to 1 to preserve existing behavior in kernel. When set to 0,
> soft-offline (e.g. MADV_SOFT_OFFLINE) will fail with EOPNOTSUPP.
> 

Seems reasonable.  A very simple patch.

Is there sufficient instrumentation in place for userspace to be able
to know that these errors are occurring?  To be able to generally
monitor the machine's health?

> @@ -2783,6 +2795,12 @@ int soft_offline_page(unsigned long pfn, int flags)
>  		return -EIO;
>  	}
>  
> +	if (!sysctl_enable_soft_offline) {
> +		pr_info("%#lx: OS-wide disabled\n", pfn);

This doesn't seem a very good message.  There's no indication that it
comes from the memory failure code at all.  If the sysadmin sees this
come out in the kernels logs, he/she will have to grep the kernel
sources just to figure out where the message came from.  Perhaps we can
be more helpful here..

> +		put_ref_page(pfn, flags);
> +		return -EOPNOTSUPP;
> +	}
> +
>  	mutex_lock(&mf_mutex);
>  




  reply	other threads:[~2024-06-17 19:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-06-17 17:05 [PATCH v3 0/3] Userspace controls soft-offline pages Jiaqi Yan
2024-06-17 17:05 ` [PATCH v3 1/3] mm/memory-failure: userspace controls soft-offlining pages Jiaqi Yan
2024-06-17 19:13   ` Andrew Morton [this message]
2024-06-17 23:17     ` Jiaqi Yan
2024-06-18  3:01       ` Miaohe Lin
2024-06-19  6:35         ` Jiaqi Yan
2024-06-19  5:03   ` Oscar Salvador
2024-06-19  5:13     ` Oscar Salvador
2024-06-19  5:26       ` Jiaqi Yan
2024-06-19  5:23     ` Oscar Salvador
2024-06-19  5:25     ` Jiaqi Yan
2024-06-17 17:05 ` [PATCH v3 2/3] selftest/mm: test enable_soft_offline behaviors Jiaqi Yan
2024-06-17 17:05 ` [PATCH v3 3/3] docs: mm: add enable_soft_offline sysctl Jiaqi Yan
2024-06-19  5:19   ` Oscar Salvador
2024-06-20 17:25     ` Jiaqi Yan

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