From: Byungchul Park <byungchul@sk.com>
To: Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>
Cc: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>,
Byungchul Park <lkml.byungchul.park@gmail.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v11 09/12] mm: implement LUF(Lazy Unmap Flush) defering tlb flush when folios get unmapped
Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2024 18:12:14 +0900 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20240611091214.GA16469@system.software.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <d650c29b-129f-4fac-9a9d-ea1fbdae2c3a@intel.com>
On Mon, Jun 03, 2024 at 06:23:46AM -0700, Dave Hansen wrote:
> On 6/3/24 02:35, Byungchul Park wrote:
> ...> In luf's point of view, the points where the deferred flush should be
> > performed are simply:
> >
> > 1. when changing the vma maps, that might be luf'ed.
> > 2. when updating data of the pages, that might be luf'ed.
>
> It's simple, but the devil is in the details as always.
>
> > All we need to do is to indentify the points:
> >
> > 1. when changing the vma maps, that might be luf'ed.
> >
> > a) mmap and munmap e.i. fault handler or unmap_region().
> > b) permission to writable e.i. mprotect or fault handler.
> > c) what I'm missing.
>
> I'd say it even more generally: anything that installs a PTE which is
> inconsistent with the original PTE. That, of course, includes writes.
> But it also includes crazy things that we do like uprobes. Take a look
> at __replace_page().
>
> I think the page_vma_mapped_walk() checks plus the ptl keep LUF at bay
> there. But it needs some really thorough review.
>
> But the bigger concern is that, if there was a problem, I can't think of
> a systematic way to find it.
>
> > 2. when updating data of the pages, that might be luf'ed.
> >
> > a) updating files through vfs e.g. file_end_write().
> > b) updating files through writable maps e.i. 1-a) or 1-b).
> > c) what I'm missing.
>
> Filesystems or block devices that change content without a "write" from
> the local system. Network filesystems and block devices come to mind.
> I honestly don't know what all the rules are around these, but they
> could certainly be troublesome.
>
> There appear to be some interactions for NFS between file locking and
> page cache flushing.
>
> But, stepping back ...
>
> I'd honestly be a lot more comfortable if there was even a debugging LUF
> mode that enforced a rule that said:
>
> 1. A LUF'd PTE can't be rewritten until after a luf_flush() occurs
> 2. A LUF'd page's position in the page cache can't be replaced until
> after a luf_flush()
I'm thinking a debug mode doing the following *pseudo* code - check the
logic only since the grammer might be wrong:
0-a) Introduce new fields in page_ext:
#ifdef LUF_DEBUG
struct list_head __percpu luf_node;
#endif
0-b) Introduce new fields in struct address_space:
#ifdef LUF_DEBUG
struct list_head __percpu luf_node;
#endif
0-c) Introduce new fields in struct task_struct:
#ifdef LUF_DEBUG
cpumask_t luf_pending_cpus;
#endif
0-d) Define percpu list_head to link luf'd folios:
#ifdef LUF_DEBUG
DEFINE_PER_CPU(struct list_head, luf_folios);
DEFINE_PER_CPU(struct list_head, luf_address_spaces);
#endif
1) When skipping tlb flush in reclaim or migration for a folio:
#ifdef LUF_DEBUG
ext = get_page_ext_for_luf_debug(folio);
as = folio_mapping(folio);
for_each_cpu(cpu, skip_cpus) {
list_add(per_cpu_ptr(ext->luf_node, cpu),
per_cpu_ptr(luf_folios, cpu));
if (as)
list_add(per_cpu_ptr(as->luf_node, cpu),
per_cpu_ptr(luf_address_spaces, cpu));
}
put_page_ext(ext);
#endif
2) When performing tlb flush in try_to_unmap_flush():
Remind luf only works on unmapping during reclaim and migration.
#ifdef LUF_DEBUG
for_each_cpu(cpu, now_flushing_cpus) {
for_each_node_safe(folio, per_cpu_ptr(luf_folios)) {
ext = get_page_ext_for_luf_debug(folio);
list_del_init(per_cpu_ptr(ext->luf_node, cpu))
put_page_ext(ext);
}
for_each_node_safe(as, per_cpu_ptr(luf_address_spaces))
list_del_init(per_cpu_ptr(as->luf_node, cpu))
cpumask_clear_cpu(cpu, current->luf_pending_cpus);
}
#endif
3) In pte_mkwrite():
#ifdef LUF_DEBUG
ext = get_page_ext_for_luf_debug(folio);
for_each_cpu(cpu, online_cpus)
if (!list_empty(per_cpu_ptr(ext->luf_node, cpu)))
cpumask_set_cpu(cpu, current->luf_pending_cpus);
put_page_ext(ext);
#endif
4) On returning to user:
#ifdef LUF_DEBUG
WARN_ON(!cpumask_empty(current->luf_pending_cpus));
#endif
5) On right after every a_ops->write_end() call:
#ifdef LUF_DEBUG
as = get_address_space_to_write_to();
for_each_cpu(cpu, online_cpus)
if (!list_empty(per_cpu_ptr(as->luf_node, cpu)))
cpumask_set_cpu(cpu, current->luf_pending_cpus);
#endif
luf_flush_or_its_optimized_version();
#ifdef LUF_DEBUG
WARN_ON(!cpumask_empty(current->luf_pending_cpus));
#endif
I will implement the debug mode this way with all serialized. Do you
think it works for what we want?
Byungchul
> or *some* other independent set of rules that can tell us when something
> goes wrong. That uprobes code, for instance, seems like it will work.
> But I can also imagine writing it ten other ways where it would break
> when combined with LUF.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-06-11 9:12 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-05-31 9:19 [PATCH v11 00/12] LUF(Lazy Unmap Flush) reducing tlb numbers over 90% Byungchul Park
2024-05-31 9:19 ` [PATCH v11 01/12] x86/tlb: add APIs manipulating tlb batch's arch data Byungchul Park
2024-05-31 9:19 ` [PATCH v11 02/12] arm64: tlbflush: " Byungchul Park
2024-05-31 9:19 ` [PATCH v11 03/12] riscv, tlb: " Byungchul Park
2024-05-31 9:19 ` [PATCH v11 04/12] x86/tlb, riscv/tlb, mm/rmap: separate arch_tlbbatch_clear() out of arch_tlbbatch_flush() Byungchul Park
2024-05-31 9:19 ` [PATCH v11 05/12] mm: buddy: make room for a new variable, ugen, in struct page Byungchul Park
2024-05-31 9:19 ` [PATCH v11 06/12] mm: add folio_put_ugen() to deliver unmap generation number to pcp or buddy Byungchul Park
2024-05-31 9:19 ` [PATCH v11 07/12] mm: add a parameter, unmap generation number, to free_unref_folios() Byungchul Park
2024-05-31 9:19 ` [PATCH v11 08/12] mm/rmap: recognize read-only tlb entries during batched tlb flush Byungchul Park
2024-05-31 9:19 ` [PATCH v11 09/12] mm: implement LUF(Lazy Unmap Flush) defering tlb flush when folios get unmapped Byungchul Park
2024-05-31 16:12 ` Dave Hansen
2024-05-31 18:04 ` Byungchul Park
2024-05-31 21:46 ` Dave Hansen
2024-05-31 22:09 ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-06-01 2:20 ` Byungchul Park
2024-06-01 7:22 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-06-03 9:35 ` Byungchul Park
2024-06-03 13:23 ` Dave Hansen
2024-06-03 16:05 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-06-03 16:37 ` Dave Hansen
2024-06-03 17:01 ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-06-03 18:00 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-06-04 8:16 ` Huang, Ying
2024-06-04 0:34 ` Byungchul Park
2024-06-10 13:23 ` Michal Hocko
2024-06-11 0:55 ` Byungchul Park
2024-06-11 11:55 ` Michal Hocko
2024-06-14 2:45 ` Byungchul Park
2024-06-04 1:53 ` Byungchul Park
2024-06-04 4:43 ` Byungchul Park
2024-06-06 8:33 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-06-14 1:57 ` Byungchul Park
2024-06-11 9:12 ` Byungchul Park [this message]
2024-05-31 9:19 ` [PATCH v11 10/12] mm: separate move/undo parts from migrate_pages_batch() Byungchul Park
2024-05-31 9:20 ` [PATCH v11 11/12] mm, migrate: apply luf mechanism to unmapping during migration Byungchul Park
2024-05-31 9:20 ` [PATCH v11 12/12] mm, vmscan: apply luf mechanism to unmapping during folio reclaim Byungchul Park
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