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From: Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>
To: Axel Rasmussen <axelrasmussen@google.com>
Cc: Oscar Salvador <osalvador@suse.de>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>,
	"Aneesh Kumar K.V" <aneesh.kumar@kernel.org>,
	Christophe Leroy <christophe.leroy@csgroup.eu>,
	Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
	David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>, Helge Deller <deller@gmx.de>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	"James E.J. Bottomley" <James.Bottomley@hansenpartnership.com>,
	John Hubbard <jhubbard@nvidia.com>,
	Liu Shixin <liushixin2@huawei.com>,
	"Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)" <willy@infradead.org>,
	Michael Ellerman <mpe@ellerman.id.au>,
	Muchun Song <muchun.song@linux.dev>,
	"Naveen N. Rao" <naveen.n.rao@linux.ibm.com>,
	Nicholas Piggin <npiggin@gmail.com>, Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>,
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	Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
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	x86@kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 1/1] arch/fault: don't print logs for pte marker poison errors
Date: Wed, 15 May 2024 20:32:22 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20240515183222.GCZkT_tvEffgYtah4T@fat_crate.local> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJHvVchGGJkEX=qroW=+N-RJDMDGuxM4xoGe7iOtRu9YcfxEEw@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, May 15, 2024 at 10:33:03AM -0700, Axel Rasmussen wrote:
> Right, the goal is to still have the process get a SIGBUS, but to
> avoid the "MCE error" log message. The basic issue is, unprivileged
> users can set these markers up, and thereby completely spam up the
> log.

What is the real attack scenario you want to protect against?

Or is this something hypothetical?

> That said, one thing I'm not sure about is whether or not
> VM_FAULT_SIGBUS is a viable alternative (returned for a new PTE marker
> type specific to simulated poison). The goal of the simulated poison
> feature is to "closely simulate" a real hardware poison event. If you
> live migrate a VM from a host with real poisoned memory, to a new
> host: you'd want to keep the same behavior if the guest accessed those
> addresses again, so as not to confuse the guest about why it suddenly
> became "un-poisoned".

Well, the recovery action is to poison the page and the process should
be resilient enough and allocate a new, clean page which doesn't trigger
hw poison hopefully, if possible.

It doesn't make a whole lotta sense if poison "remains". Hardware poison
you don't want to touch a second time either - otherwise you might
consume that poison and die.

-- 
Regards/Gruss,
    Boris.

https://people.kernel.org/tglx/notes-about-netiquette


  reply	other threads:[~2024-05-15 18:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-05-10 18:29 [PATCH v2 0/1] arch/fault: don't print logs for simulated " Axel Rasmussen
2024-05-10 18:29 ` [PATCH v2 1/1] arch/fault: don't print logs for pte marker " Axel Rasmussen
2024-05-10 19:29   ` Peter Xu
2024-05-14 20:26     ` Oscar Salvador
2024-05-14 21:34       ` Peter Xu
2024-05-15 10:21         ` Oscar Salvador
2024-05-22 21:46           ` Peter Xu
2024-05-23  3:08             ` Oscar Salvador
2024-05-23 15:59               ` Peter Xu
2024-05-15 10:41   ` Borislav Petkov
2024-05-15 10:54     ` Oscar Salvador
2024-05-15 17:33       ` Axel Rasmussen
2024-05-15 18:32         ` Borislav Petkov [this message]
2024-05-15 19:19           ` Axel Rasmussen
2024-05-15 20:18             ` Borislav Petkov
2024-05-16 20:28               ` Axel Rasmussen
2024-05-22 22:03               ` Peter Xu

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