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From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>
To: Zi Yan <ziy@nvidia.com>
Cc: Lance Yang <ioworker0@gmail.com>,
	Alistair Popple <apopple@nvidia.com>,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, willy@infradead.org, sj@kernel.org,
	maskray@google.com, ryan.roberts@arm.com, david@redhat.com,
	21cnbao@gmail.com, mhocko@suse.com, fengwei.yin@intel.com,
	zokeefe@google.com, shy828301@gmail.com, xiehuan09@gmail.com,
	libang.li@antgroup.com, wangkefeng.wang@huawei.com,
	songmuchun@bytedance.com, peterx@redhat.com, minchan@kernel.org,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Baolin Wang <baolin.wang@linux.alibaba.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 2/3] mm/rmap: integrate PMD-mapped folio splitting into pagewalk loop
Date: Wed, 8 May 2024 13:35:26 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20240508163526.GM4650@nvidia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <30469615-2DDC-467E-A810-5EE8E1CFCB43@nvidia.com>

On Wed, May 08, 2024 at 12:22:08PM -0400, Zi Yan wrote:
> On 8 May 2024, at 11:52, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> 
> > On Wed, May 08, 2024 at 10:56:34AM -0400, Zi Yan wrote:
> >
> >> Lance is improving try_to_unmap_one() to support unmapping PMD THP as a whole,
> >> so he moves split_huge_pmd_address() inside while (page_vma_mapped_walk(&pvmw))
> >> and after mmu_notifier_invalidate_range_start() as split_huge_pmd_locked()
> >> and does not include the mmu notifier ops inside split_huge_pmd_address().
> >> I wonder if that could cause issues, since the mmu_notifier_invalidate_range_start()
> >> before the while loop only has range of the original address and
> >> split huge pmd can affect the entire PMD address range and these two ranges
> >> might not be the same.
> >
> > That does not sound entirely good..
> >
> > I suppose it depends on what split does, if the MM page table has the
> > same translation before and after split then perhaps no invalidation
> > is even necessary.
> 
> Before split, it is a PMD mapping to a PMD THP (order-9). After split,
> they are 512 PTEs mapping to the same THP. Unless the secondary TLB
> does not support PMD mapping and use 512 PTEs instead, it seems to
> be an issue from my understanding.

I may not recall fully, but I don't think any secondaries are
so sensitive to the PMD/PTE distinction.. At least the ones using
hmm_range_fault() are not.

When the PTE eventually comes up for invalidation then the secondary
should wipe out any granual they may have captured.

Though, perhaps KVM should be checked carefully.

> In terms of two mmu_notifier ranges, first is in the split_huge_pmd_address()[1]
> and second is in try_to_unmap_one()[2]. When try_to_unmap_one() is unmapping
> a subpage in the middle of a PMD THP, the former notifies about the PMD range
> change due to one PMD split into 512 PTEs and the latter only needs to notify
> about the invalidation of the unmapped PTE. I do not think the latter can
> replace the former, although a potential optimization can be that the latter
> can be removed as it is included in the range of the former.

I think we probably don't need both, either size might be fine, but
the larger size is definately fine..

> Regarding Lance's current code change, is it OK to change mmu_notifier range
> after mmu_notifier_invalidate_range_start()? 

No, it cannot be changed during a start/stop transaction.

Jason




  reply	other threads:[~2024-05-08 16:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-05-01  4:26 [PATCH v4 0/3] Reclaim lazyfree THP without splitting Lance Yang
2024-05-01  4:26 ` [PATCH v4 1/3] mm/rmap: remove duplicated exit code in pagewalk loop Lance Yang
2024-05-07 14:51   ` Zi Yan
2024-05-07 14:53     ` Lance Yang
2024-05-01  4:26 ` [PATCH v4 2/3] mm/rmap: integrate PMD-mapped folio splitting into " Lance Yang
2024-05-07  3:40   ` Baolin Wang
2024-05-07  4:37     ` Lance Yang
2024-05-07  8:17       ` David Hildenbrand
2024-05-07  8:38         ` Lance Yang
2024-05-07 17:22           ` Andrew Morton
2024-05-07 17:33             ` David Hildenbrand
2024-05-07 17:38               ` Andrew Morton
2024-05-07 18:30                 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-05-07 15:26   ` Zi Yan
2024-05-08  5:43     ` Lance Yang
2024-05-08 14:07       ` Zi Yan
2024-05-08 14:35         ` Lance Yang
2024-05-08 14:48           ` Zi Yan
2024-05-08 14:56             ` Zi Yan
2024-05-08 15:52               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-05-08 16:22                 ` Zi Yan
2024-05-08 16:35                   ` Jason Gunthorpe [this message]
2024-05-09  8:21                     ` Lance Yang
2024-05-09 14:53                       ` Zi Yan
2024-05-09  8:56                     ` Lance Yang
2024-05-01  4:27 ` [PATCH v4 3/3] mm/vmscan: avoid split lazyfree THP during shrink_folio_list() Lance Yang
2024-05-07  4:00   ` Baolin Wang
2024-05-07  6:32     ` Lance Yang
2024-05-07  8:26       ` Lance Yang
2024-05-07  9:33         ` Baolin Wang
2024-05-07 11:37           ` Lance Yang
2024-05-09  9:36             ` Baolin Wang
2024-05-09 12:17               ` Lance Yang
2024-05-07 16:20   ` Zi Yan
2024-05-08  5:14     ` Lance Yang
2024-05-01 16:08 ` [PATCH v4 0/3] Reclaim lazyfree THP without splitting SeongJae Park
2024-05-02  0:30   ` Lance Yang

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