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From: Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>
To: Yosry Ahmed <yosryahmed@google.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Nhat Pham <nphamcs@gmail.com>,
	Chengming Zhou <chengming.zhou@linux.dev>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 5/5] mm: zswap: do not check the global limit for same-filled pages
Date: Thu, 4 Apr 2024 22:54:07 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20240405025407.GF641486@cmpxchg.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20240405013547.1859126-6-yosryahmed@google.com>

On Fri, Apr 05, 2024 at 01:35:47AM +0000, Yosry Ahmed wrote:
> When storing same-filled pages, there is no point of checking the global
> zswap limit as storing them does not contribute toward the limit Move
> the limit checking after same-filled pages are handled.
> 
> This avoids having same-filled pages skip zswap and go to disk swap if
> the limit is hit. It also avoids queueing the shrink worker, which may
> end up being unnecessary if the zswap usage goes down on its own before
> another store is attempted.
> 
> Ignoring the memcg limits as well for same-filled pages is more
> controversial. Those limits are more a matter of per-workload policy.
> Some workloads disable zswap completely by setting memory.zswap.max = 0,
> and those workloads could start observing some zswap activity even after
> disabling zswap. Although harmless, this could cause confusion to
> userspace. Remain conservative and keep respecting those limits.
> 
> Signed-off-by: Yosry Ahmed <yosryahmed@google.com>

I'm not sure this buys us enough in practice to justify special-casing
those entries even further. Especially with the quirk of checking
cgroup limits but not the global ones; that would definitely need a
code comment similar to what you have in the changelog; and once you
add that, the real estate this special treatment takes up really
doesn't seem reasonable anymore.

In most cases we'd expect a mix of pages to hit swap. Waking up the
shrinker on a zero-filled entry is not strictly necessary of course,
but the zswap limit has been reached and the system is swapping - a
wakeup seems imminent anyway.


  reply	other threads:[~2024-04-05  2:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-04-05  1:35 [PATCH v1 0/5] zswap same-filled and limit checking cleanups Yosry Ahmed
2024-04-05  1:35 ` [PATCH v1 1/5] mm: zswap: always shrink in zswap_store() if zswap_pool_reached_full Yosry Ahmed
2024-04-05  1:35 ` [PATCH v1 2/5] mm: zswap: refactor limit checking from zswap_store() Yosry Ahmed
2024-04-05  2:44   ` Johannes Weiner
2024-04-05  4:15     ` Yosry Ahmed
2024-04-05  1:35 ` [PATCH v1 3/5] mm: zswap: move more same-filled pages checks outside of zswap_store() Yosry Ahmed
2024-04-05  2:34   ` Johannes Weiner
2024-04-05  1:35 ` [PATCH v1 4/5] mm: zswap: remove same_filled module params Yosry Ahmed
2024-04-05  2:35   ` Johannes Weiner
2024-04-05  1:35 ` [PATCH v1 5/5] mm: zswap: do not check the global limit for same-filled pages Yosry Ahmed
2024-04-05  2:54   ` Johannes Weiner [this message]
2024-04-05  4:19     ` Yosry Ahmed

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