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From: Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>
To: Nanyong Sun <sunnanyong@huawei.com>
Cc: David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
	Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
	muchun.song@linux.dev, Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	anshuman.khandual@arm.com, wangkefeng.wang@huawei.com,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	Yu Zhao <yuzhao@google.com>, Yosry Ahmed <yosryahmed@google.com>,
	Sourav Panda <souravpanda@google.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 0/3] A Solution to Re-enable hugetlb vmemmap optimize
Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2024 12:54:10 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20240326125409.GA9552@willie-the-truck> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <22c14513-af78-0f1d-5647-384ff9cb5993@huawei.com>

On Mon, Mar 25, 2024 at 11:24:34PM +0800, Nanyong Sun wrote:
> On 2024/3/14 7:32, David Rientjes wrote:
> > On Thu, 8 Feb 2024, Will Deacon wrote:
> > > > How about take a new lock with irq disabled during BBM, like:
> > > > 
> > > > +void vmemmap_update_pte(unsigned long addr, pte_t *ptep, pte_t pte)
> > > > +{
> > > > +     (NEW_LOCK);
> > > > +    pte_clear(&init_mm, addr, ptep);
> > > > +    flush_tlb_kernel_range(addr, addr + PAGE_SIZE);
> > > > +    set_pte_at(&init_mm, addr, ptep, pte);
> > > > +    spin_unlock_irq(NEW_LOCK);
> > > > +}
> > > I really think the only maintainable way to achieve this is to avoid the
> > > possibility of a fault altogether.
> > > 
> > Nanyong, are you still actively working on making HVO possible on arm64?
> > 
> > This would yield a substantial memory savings on hosts that are largely
> > configured with hugetlbfs.  In our case, the size of this hugetlbfs pool
> > is actually never changed after boot, but it sounds from the thread that
> > there was an idea to make HVO conditional on FEAT_BBM.  Is this being
> > pursued?
> > 
> > If so, any testing help needed?
> I'm afraid that FEAT_BBM may not solve the problem here, because from Arm
> ARM,
> I see that FEAT_BBM is only used for changing block size. Therefore, in this
> HVO feature,
> it can work in the split PMD stage, that is, BBM can be avoided in
> vmemmap_split_pmd,
> but in the subsequent vmemmap_remap_pte, the Output address of PTE still
> needs to be
> changed. I'm afraid FEAT_BBM is not competent for this stage. Perhaps my
> understanding
> of ARM FEAT_BBM is wrong, and I hope someone can correct me.
> Actually, the solution I first considered was to use the stop_machine
> method, but we have
> products that rely on /proc/sys/vm/nr_overcommit_hugepages to dynamically
> use hugepages,
> so I have to consider performance issues. If your product does not change
> the amount of huge
> pages after booting, using stop_machine() may be a feasible way.
> So far, I still haven't come up with a good solution.

Oh, I hadn't appreciated that you needed to remap the memmap live. How
do you synchronise the two copies in that case? I think we (i.e. the arch
folks) probably need some more explanation on exactly who can race with
what here, otherwise I don't grok how this can work.

Thanks,

Will


  reply	other threads:[~2024-03-26 12:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-01-13  9:44 Nanyong Sun
2024-01-13  9:44 ` [PATCH v3 1/3] mm: HVO: introduce helper function to update and flush pgtable Nanyong Sun
2024-01-13  9:44 ` [PATCH v3 2/3] arm64: mm: HVO: support BBM of vmemmap pgtable safely Nanyong Sun
2024-01-15  2:38   ` Muchun Song
2024-02-07 12:21   ` Mark Rutland
2024-02-08  9:30     ` Nanyong Sun
2024-01-13  9:44 ` [PATCH v3 3/3] arm64: mm: Re-enable OPTIMIZE_HUGETLB_VMEMMAP Nanyong Sun
2024-01-25 18:06 ` [PATCH v3 0/3] A Solution to Re-enable hugetlb vmemmap optimize Catalin Marinas
2024-01-27  5:04   ` Nanyong Sun
2024-02-07 11:12     ` Will Deacon
2024-02-07 11:21       ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-02-07 12:11         ` Will Deacon
2024-02-07 12:24           ` Mark Rutland
2024-02-07 14:17           ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-02-08  2:24             ` Jane Chu
2024-02-08 15:49               ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-02-08 19:21                 ` Jane Chu
2024-02-11 11:59                 ` Muchun Song
2024-06-05 20:50                   ` Yu Zhao
2024-06-06  8:30                     ` David Hildenbrand
2024-06-07 16:55                       ` Frank van der Linden
2024-02-07 12:20         ` Catalin Marinas
2024-02-08  9:44           ` Nanyong Sun
2024-02-08 13:17             ` Will Deacon
2024-03-13 23:32               ` David Rientjes
2024-03-25 15:24                 ` Nanyong Sun
2024-03-26 12:54                   ` Will Deacon [this message]
2024-06-24  5:39                   ` Yu Zhao
2024-06-27 14:33                     ` Nanyong Sun
2024-06-27 21:03                       ` Yu Zhao
2024-07-04 11:47                         ` Nanyong Sun
2024-07-04 19:45                           ` Yu Zhao
2024-02-07 12:44     ` Catalin Marinas
2024-06-27 21:19       ` Yu Zhao
2024-07-05 15:49         ` Catalin Marinas
2024-07-05 17:41           ` Yu Zhao
2024-07-10 16:51             ` Catalin Marinas
2024-07-10 17:12               ` Yu Zhao
2024-07-10 22:29                 ` Catalin Marinas
2024-07-10 23:07                   ` Yu Zhao
2024-07-11  8:31                     ` Yu Zhao
2024-07-11 11:39                       ` Catalin Marinas
2024-07-11 17:38                         ` Yu Zhao

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