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From: Barry Song <21cnbao@gmail.com>
To: ryan.roberts@arm.com
Cc: akpm@linux-foundation.org, david@redhat.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	mhocko@suse.com, shy828301@gmail.com, wangkefeng.wang@huawei.com,
	willy@infradead.org, xiang@kernel.org, ying.huang@intel.com,
	yuzhao@google.com, chrisl@kernel.org, surenb@google.com,
	hanchuanhua@oppo.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 4/4] mm: swap: Swap-out small-sized THP without splitting
Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2024 20:05:44 +1300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20240222070544.133673-1-21cnbao@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20231025144546.577640-5-ryan.roberts@arm.com>

Hi Ryan,

> diff --git a/mm/vmscan.c b/mm/vmscan.c
> index 2cc0cb41fb32..ea19710aa4cd 100644
> --- a/mm/vmscan.c
> +++ b/mm/vmscan.c
> @@ -1212,11 +1212,13 @@ static unsigned int shrink_folio_list(struct list_head *folio_list,
>  					if (!can_split_folio(folio, NULL))
>  						goto activate_locked;
>  					/*
> -					 * Split folios without a PMD map right
> -					 * away. Chances are some or all of the
> -					 * tail pages can be freed without IO.
> +					 * Split PMD-mappable folios without a
> +					 * PMD map right away. Chances are some
> +					 * or all of the tail pages can be freed
> +					 * without IO.
>  					 */
> -					if (!folio_entire_mapcount(folio) &&
> +					if (folio_test_pmd_mappable(folio) &&
> +					    !folio_entire_mapcount(folio) &&
>  					    split_folio_to_list(folio,
>  								folio_list))
>  						goto activate_locked;

I ran a test to investigate what would happen while reclaiming a partially
unmapped large folio. for example, for 64KiB large folios, MADV_DONTNEED
4KB~64KB, and keep the first subpage 0~4KiB.
 
My test wants to address my three concerns,
a. whether we will have leak on swap slots
b. whether we will have redundant I/O
c. whether we will cause races on swapcache

what i have done is printing folio->_nr_pages_mapped and dumping 16 swap_map[]
at some specific stage
1. just after add_to_swap   (swap slots are allocated)
2. before and after try_to_unmap   (ptes are set to swap_entry)
3. before and after pageout (also add printk in zram driver to dump all I/O write)
4. before and after remove_mapping

The below is the dumped info for a particular large folio,

1. after add_to_swap
[   27.267357] vmscan: After add_to_swap shrink_folio_list 1947 mapnr:1
[   27.267650] vmscan: offset:101b0 swp_map 40-40-40-40-40-40-40-40-40-40-40-40-40-40-40-40

as you can see,
_nr_pages_mapped is 1 and all 16 swap_map are SWAP_HAS_CACHE (0x40)


2. before and after try_to_unmap
[   27.268067] vmscan: before try to unmap shrink_folio_list 1991 mapnr:1
[   27.268372] try_to_unmap_one address:ffff731f0000 pte:e8000103cd0b43 pte_p:ffff0000c36a8f80
[   27.268854] vmscan: after try to unmap shrink_folio_list 1997 mapnr:0
[   27.269180] vmscan: offset:101b0 swp_map 41-40-40-40-40-40-40-40-40-40-40-40-40-40-40-40

as you can see, one pte is set to swp_entry, and _nr_pages_mapped becomes
0 from 1. The 1st swp_map becomes 0x41, SWAP_HAS_CACHE + 1

3. before and after pageout
[   27.269602] vmscan: before pageout shrink_folio_list 2065 mapnr:0
[   27.269880] vmscan: offset:101b0 swp_map 41-40-40-40-40-40-40-40-40-40-40-40-40-40-40-40
[   27.270691] zram: zram_write_page page:fffffc00030f3400 index:101b0
[   27.271061] zram: zram_write_page page:fffffc00030f3440 index:101b1
[   27.271416] zram: zram_write_page page:fffffc00030f3480 index:101b2
[   27.271751] zram: zram_write_page page:fffffc00030f34c0 index:101b3
[   27.272046] zram: zram_write_page page:fffffc00030f3500 index:101b4
[   27.272384] zram: zram_write_page page:fffffc00030f3540 index:101b5
[   27.272746] zram: zram_write_page page:fffffc00030f3580 index:101b6
[   27.273042] zram: zram_write_page page:fffffc00030f35c0 index:101b7
[   27.273339] zram: zram_write_page page:fffffc00030f3600 index:101b8
[   27.273676] zram: zram_write_page page:fffffc00030f3640 index:101b9
[   27.274044] zram: zram_write_page page:fffffc00030f3680 index:101ba
[   27.274554] zram: zram_write_page page:fffffc00030f36c0 index:101bb
[   27.274870] zram: zram_write_page page:fffffc00030f3700 index:101bc
[   27.275166] zram: zram_write_page page:fffffc00030f3740 index:101bd
[   27.275463] zram: zram_write_page page:fffffc00030f3780 index:101be
[   27.275760] zram: zram_write_page page:fffffc00030f37c0 index:101bf
[   27.276102] vmscan: after pageout and before needs_release shrink_folio_list 2124 mapnr:0

as you can see, obviously, we have done redundant I/O - 16 zram_write_page though
4~64KiB has been zap_pte_range before, we still write them to zRAM.

4. before and after remove_mapping
[   27.276428] vmscan: offset:101b0 swp_map 41-40-40-40-40-40-40-40-40-40-40-40-40-40-40-40
[   27.277485] vmscan: after remove_mapping shrink_folio_list 2169 mapnr:0 offset:0
[   27.277802] vmscan: offset:101b0 01-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00

as you can see, swp_map 1-15 becomes 0 and only the first swp_map is 1.
all SWAP_HAS_CACHE has been removed. This is perfect and there is no swap
slot leak at all!

Thus, only two concerns are left for me,
1. as we don't split anyway, we have done 15 unnecessary I/O if a large folio
is partially unmapped.
2. large folio is added as a whole as a swapcache covering the range whose
part has been zapped. I am not quite sure if this will cause some problems
while some concurrent do_anon_page, swapin and swapout occurs between 3 and
4 on zapped subpage1~subpage15. still struggling.. my brain is exploding... 

To me, it seems safer to split or do some other similar optimization if we find a
large folio has partial map and unmap.

Thanks
Barry


  parent reply	other threads:[~2024-02-22  7:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 116+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-10-25 14:45 [PATCH v3 0/4] " Ryan Roberts
2023-10-25 14:45 ` [PATCH v3 1/4] mm: swap: Remove CLUSTER_FLAG_HUGE from swap_cluster_info:flags Ryan Roberts
2024-02-22 10:19   ` David Hildenbrand
2024-02-22 10:20     ` David Hildenbrand
2024-02-26 17:41       ` Ryan Roberts
2024-02-27 17:10         ` Ryan Roberts
2024-02-27 19:17           ` David Hildenbrand
2024-02-28  9:37             ` Ryan Roberts
2024-02-28 12:12               ` David Hildenbrand
2024-02-28 14:57                 ` Ryan Roberts
2024-02-28 15:12                   ` David Hildenbrand
2024-02-28 15:18                     ` Ryan Roberts
2024-03-01 16:27                     ` Ryan Roberts
2024-03-01 16:31                       ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-03-01 16:44                         ` Ryan Roberts
2024-03-01 17:00                           ` David Hildenbrand
2024-03-01 17:14                             ` Ryan Roberts
2024-03-01 17:18                               ` David Hildenbrand
2024-03-01 17:06                           ` Ryan Roberts
2024-03-04  4:52                             ` Barry Song
2024-03-04  5:42                               ` Barry Song
2024-03-05  7:41                                 ` Ryan Roberts
2024-03-01 16:31                       ` Ryan Roberts
2024-03-01 16:32                       ` David Hildenbrand
2024-03-04 16:03                 ` Ryan Roberts
2024-03-04 17:30                   ` David Hildenbrand
2024-03-04 18:38                     ` Ryan Roberts
2024-03-04 20:50                       ` David Hildenbrand
2024-03-04 21:55                         ` Ryan Roberts
2024-03-04 22:02                           ` David Hildenbrand
2024-03-04 22:34                             ` Ryan Roberts
2024-03-05  6:11                               ` Huang, Ying
2024-03-05  8:35                                 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-03-05  8:46                                   ` Ryan Roberts
2024-02-28 13:33               ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-02-28 14:24                 ` Ryan Roberts
2024-02-28 14:59                   ` Ryan Roberts
2023-10-25 14:45 ` [PATCH v3 2/4] mm: swap: Remove struct percpu_cluster Ryan Roberts
2023-10-25 14:45 ` [PATCH v3 3/4] mm: swap: Simplify ssd behavior when scanner steals entry Ryan Roberts
2023-10-25 14:45 ` [PATCH v3 4/4] mm: swap: Swap-out small-sized THP without splitting Ryan Roberts
2023-10-30  8:18   ` Huang, Ying
2023-10-30 13:59     ` Ryan Roberts
2023-10-31  8:12       ` Huang, Ying
2023-11-03 11:42         ` Ryan Roberts
2023-11-02  7:40   ` Barry Song
2023-11-02 10:21     ` Ryan Roberts
2023-11-02 22:36       ` Barry Song
2023-11-03 11:31         ` Ryan Roberts
2023-11-03 13:57           ` Steven Price
2023-11-04  9:34             ` Barry Song
2023-11-06 10:12               ` Steven Price
2023-11-06 21:39                 ` Barry Song
2023-11-08 11:51                   ` Steven Price
2023-11-07 12:46               ` Ryan Roberts
2023-11-07 18:05                 ` Barry Song
2023-11-08 11:23                   ` Barry Song
2023-11-08 20:20                     ` Ryan Roberts
2023-11-08 21:04                       ` Barry Song
2023-11-04  5:49           ` Barry Song
2024-02-05  9:51   ` Barry Song
2024-02-05 12:14     ` Ryan Roberts
2024-02-18 23:40       ` Barry Song
2024-02-20 20:03         ` Ryan Roberts
2024-03-05  9:00         ` Ryan Roberts
2024-03-05  9:54           ` Barry Song
2024-03-05 10:44             ` Ryan Roberts
2024-02-27 12:28     ` Ryan Roberts
2024-02-27 13:37     ` Ryan Roberts
2024-02-28  2:46       ` Barry Song
2024-02-22  7:05   ` Barry Song [this message]
2024-02-22 10:09     ` David Hildenbrand
2024-02-23  9:46       ` Barry Song
2024-02-27 12:05         ` Ryan Roberts
2024-02-28  1:23           ` Barry Song
2024-02-28  9:34             ` David Hildenbrand
2024-02-28 23:18               ` Barry Song
2024-02-28 15:57             ` Ryan Roberts
2023-11-29  7:47 ` [PATCH v3 0/4] " Barry Song
2023-11-29 12:06   ` Ryan Roberts
2023-11-29 20:38     ` Barry Song
2024-01-18 11:10 ` [PATCH RFC 0/6] mm: support large folios swap-in Barry Song
2024-01-18 11:10   ` [PATCH RFC 1/6] arm64: mm: swap: support THP_SWAP on hardware with MTE Barry Song
2024-01-26 23:14     ` Chris Li
2024-02-26  2:59       ` Barry Song
2024-01-18 11:10   ` [PATCH RFC 2/6] mm: swap: introduce swap_nr_free() for batched swap_free() Barry Song
2024-01-26 23:17     ` Chris Li
2024-02-26  4:47       ` Barry Song
2024-01-18 11:10   ` [PATCH RFC 3/6] mm: swap: make should_try_to_free_swap() support large-folio Barry Song
2024-01-26 23:22     ` Chris Li
2024-01-18 11:10   ` [PATCH RFC 4/6] mm: support large folios swapin as a whole Barry Song
2024-01-27 19:53     ` Chris Li
2024-02-26  7:29       ` Barry Song
2024-01-27 20:06     ` Chris Li
2024-02-26  7:31       ` Barry Song
2024-01-18 11:10   ` [PATCH RFC 5/6] mm: rmap: weaken the WARN_ON in __folio_add_anon_rmap() Barry Song
2024-01-18 11:54     ` David Hildenbrand
2024-01-23  6:49       ` Barry Song
2024-01-29  3:25         ` Chris Li
2024-01-29 10:06           ` David Hildenbrand
2024-01-29 16:31             ` Chris Li
2024-02-26  5:05               ` Barry Song
2024-04-06 23:27             ` Barry Song
2024-01-27 23:41     ` Chris Li
2024-01-18 11:10   ` [PATCH RFC 6/6] mm: madvise: don't split mTHP for MADV_PAGEOUT Barry Song
2024-01-29  2:15     ` Chris Li
2024-02-26  6:39       ` Barry Song
2024-02-27 12:22     ` Ryan Roberts
2024-02-27 22:39       ` Barry Song
2024-02-27 14:40     ` Ryan Roberts
2024-02-27 18:57       ` Barry Song
2024-02-28  3:49         ` Barry Song
2024-01-18 15:25   ` [PATCH RFC 0/6] mm: support large folios swap-in Ryan Roberts
2024-01-18 23:54     ` Barry Song
2024-01-19 13:25       ` Ryan Roberts
2024-01-27 14:27         ` Barry Song
2024-01-29  9:05   ` Huang, Ying

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