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From: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
To: Bernd Edlinger <bernd.edlinger@hotmail.de>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v14] exec: Fix dead-lock in de_thread with ptrace_attach
Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2024 16:22:11 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20240116152210.GA12342@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <AS8P193MB1285FF445694F149B70B21D0E46C2@AS8P193MB1285.EURP193.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>

I'll try to recall this problem and actually read the patch tommorrow...

Hmm. but it doesn't apply to Linus's tree, you need to rebase it.
In particular, please note the recent commit 5431fdd2c181dd2eac2
("ptrace: Convert ptrace_attach() to use lock guards")

On 01/15, Bernd Edlinger wrote:
>
> The problem happens when a tracer tries to ptrace_attach
> to a multi-threaded process, that does an execve in one of
> the threads at the same time, without doing that in a forked
> sub-process.  That means: There is a race condition, when one
> or more of the threads are already ptraced, but the thread
> that invoked the execve is not yet traced.  Now in this
> case the execve locks the cred_guard_mutex and waits for
> de_thread to complete.  But that waits for the traced
> sibling threads to exit, and those have to wait for the
> tracer to receive the exit signal, but the tracer cannot
> call wait right now, because it is waiting for the ptrace
> call to complete, and this never does not happen.
> The traced process and the tracer are now in a deadlock
> situation, and can only be killed by a fatal signal.

This looks very confusing to me. And even misleading.

So IIRC the problem is "simple".

de_thread() sleeps with cred_guard_mutex waiting for other threads to
exit and pass release_task/__exit_signal.

If one of the sub-threads is traced, debugger should do ptrace_detach()
or wait() to release this tracee, the killed tracee won't autoreap.

Now. If debugger tries to take the same cred_guard_mutex before
detach/wait we have a deadlock. This is not specific to ptrace_attach(),
proc_pid_attr_write() takes this lock too.

Right? Or are there other issues?

> -static int de_thread(struct task_struct *tsk)
> +static int de_thread(struct task_struct *tsk, struct linux_binprm *bprm)
>  {
>  	struct signal_struct *sig = tsk->signal;
>  	struct sighand_struct *oldsighand = tsk->sighand;
>  	spinlock_t *lock = &oldsighand->siglock;
> +	struct task_struct *t = tsk;
> +	bool unsafe_execve_in_progress = false;
>
>  	if (thread_group_empty(tsk))
>  		goto no_thread_group;
> @@ -1066,6 +1068,19 @@ static int de_thread(struct task_struct *tsk)
>  	if (!thread_group_leader(tsk))
>  		sig->notify_count--;
>
> +	while_each_thread(tsk, t) {

for_other_threads()

> +		if (unlikely(t->ptrace)
> +		    && (t != tsk->group_leader || !t->exit_state))
> +			unsafe_execve_in_progress = true;

The !t->exit_state is not right... This sub-thread can already be a zombie
with ->exit_state != 0 but see above, it won't be reaped until the debugger
does wait().

> +	if (unlikely(unsafe_execve_in_progress)) {
> +		spin_unlock_irq(lock);
> +		sig->exec_bprm = bprm;
> +		mutex_unlock(&sig->cred_guard_mutex);
> +		spin_lock_irq(lock);

I don't understand why do we need to unlock and lock siglock here...

But my main question is why do we need the unsafe_execve_in_progress boolean.
If this patch is correct and de_thread() can drop and re-acquire cread_guard_mutex
when one of the threads is traced, then why can't we do this unconditionally ?

Oleg.



  parent reply	other threads:[~2024-01-16 15:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 68+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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     [not found] ` <AM8PR10MB470875B22B4C08BEAEC3F77FE4169@AM8PR10MB4708.EURPRD10.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
2023-10-30  5:20   ` [PATCH v12] " Bernd Edlinger
2023-10-30  9:00     ` kernel test robot
     [not found]     ` <AS8P193MB12851AC1F862B97FCE9B3F4FE4AAA@AS8P193MB1285.EURP193.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
2024-01-15 19:22       ` [PATCH v14] " Bernd Edlinger
2024-01-15 19:37         ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-01-17  9:51           ` Bernd Edlinger
2024-01-16 15:22         ` Oleg Nesterov [this message]
2024-01-17 15:07           ` Bernd Edlinger
2024-01-17 16:38             ` Oleg Nesterov
2024-01-22 13:24               ` Bernd Edlinger
2024-01-22 13:44                 ` Oleg Nesterov
2024-01-22 21:30                 ` Kees Cook
2024-01-23 18:30                   ` Bernd Edlinger
2024-01-24  0:09                     ` Kees Cook
     [not found]         ` <AS8P193MB1285937F9831CECAF2A9EEE2E4752@AS8P193MB1285.EURP193.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
2025-08-18  6:04           ` [PATCH v15] " Jain, Ayush
2025-08-18 20:53           ` [PATCH v16] " Bernd Edlinger
2025-08-19  4:36             ` Kees Cook
2025-08-19 18:53               ` Bernd Edlinger
2025-08-21 17:34             ` [PATCH v17] " Bernd Edlinger
2025-10-27  6:26               ` Bernd Edlinger
2025-10-27 12:06               ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-11-02 16:17               ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-11-05 14:32               ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-11-11  9:21                 ` Christian Brauner
2025-11-11 11:07                   ` Bernd Edlinger
2025-11-11 13:12                     ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-11-11 13:45                       ` Bernd Edlinger
2025-11-12  9:52                         ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-11-17  6:31                   ` Bernd Edlinger
2025-11-17 15:01                     ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-11-17 20:08                       ` Bernd Edlinger
2025-11-23 18:32                         ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-11-29 15:06                           ` Bernd Edlinger
2025-12-01 15:13                             ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-11-09 17:14               ` [RFC PATCH 0/3] mt-exec: fix deadlock with ptrace_attach() Oleg Nesterov
2025-11-09 17:14                 ` [RFC PATCH 1/3] exec: make setup_new_exec() return int Oleg Nesterov
2025-11-09 17:15                 ` [RFC PATCH 2/3] exec: don't wait for zombie threads with cred_guard_mutex held Oleg Nesterov
2025-11-10 10:58                   ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2025-11-10 15:09                     ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-11-10 21:49                       ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2025-11-11 14:09                         ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-11-09 17:16                 ` [RFC PATCH 3/3] ptrace: ensure PTRACE_EVENT_EXIT won't stop if the tracee is killed by exec Oleg Nesterov
2025-11-10  5:28                 ` [RFC PATCH 0/3] mt-exec: fix deadlock with ptrace_attach() Bernd Edlinger
2025-11-10 14:47                   ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-11-18 18:13               ` [PATCH v18] exec: Fix dead-lock in de_thread with ptrace_attach Bernd Edlinger
2025-11-20 15:15                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2025-11-20 17:29                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2025-11-20 20:57                     ` [RFC][PATCH] exec: Move cred computation under exec_update_lock Eric W. Biederman
2025-11-20 23:50                       ` Eric W. Biederman
2025-11-21  2:59                         ` Bernd Edlinger
2025-11-21  7:18                           ` Eric W. Biederman
2025-11-21  9:35                             ` Bernd Edlinger
2025-11-21 11:26                               ` Bernd Edlinger
2025-11-21 19:19                                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2025-11-21 23:06                                   ` Ryan Lee
2025-11-23 18:52                       ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-11-23 23:22                         ` Eric W. Biederman
2025-11-25 16:19                           ` Bernd Edlinger
2025-11-25 11:55                       ` Roberto Sassu
2025-12-01 16:06                         ` Are setuid shell scripts safe? (Implied by security_bprm_creds_for_exec) Eric W. Biederman
2025-12-01 16:49                           ` Roberto Sassu
2025-12-01 18:53                             ` Eric W. Biederman
2025-12-01 21:39                               ` David Laight
2025-12-03 13:16                               ` Bernd Edlinger
2025-12-04  5:49                                 ` Al Viro
2025-12-04  9:32                                   ` David Laight
2025-12-04 13:03                                   ` Bernd Edlinger
2025-12-04 15:43                           ` Stephen Smalley
2025-11-22 17:10                     ` [PATCH v18] exec: Fix dead-lock in de_thread with ptrace_attach Bernd Edlinger

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