From: Shakeel Butt <shakeelb@google.com>
To: Dan Schatzberg <schatzberg.dan@gmail.com>
Cc: Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
Roman Gushchin <roman.gushchin@linux.dev>,
Yosry Ahmed <yosryahmed@google.com>, Huan Yang <link@vivo.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, cgroups@vger.kernel.org,
linux-mm@kvack.org, Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>,
Muchun Song <muchun.song@linux.dev>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>,
Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
Huang Ying <ying.huang@intel.com>,
Kefeng Wang <wangkefeng.wang@huawei.com>,
Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>,
"Vishal Moola (Oracle)" <vishal.moola@gmail.com>,
Yue Zhao <findns94@gmail.com>, Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/1] Add swappiness argument to memory.reclaim
Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2023 18:44:24 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20231130184424.7sbez2ukaylerhy6@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20231130153658.527556-1-schatzberg.dan@gmail.com>
On Thu, Nov 30, 2023 at 07:36:53AM -0800, Dan Schatzberg wrote:
> (Sorry for the resend - forgot to cc the mailing lists)
>
> This patch proposes augmenting the memory.reclaim interface with a
> swappiness=<val> argument that overrides the swappiness value for that instance
> of proactive reclaim.
>
> Userspace proactive reclaimers use the memory.reclaim interface to trigger
> reclaim. The memory.reclaim interface does not allow for any way to effect the
> balance of file vs anon during proactive reclaim. The only approach is to adjust
> the vm.swappiness setting. However, there are a few reasons we look to control
> the balance of file vs anon during proactive reclaim, separately from reactive
> reclaim:
>
> * Swapout should be limited to manage SSD write endurance. In near-OOM
Is this about swapout to SSD only?
> situations we are fine with lots of swap-out to avoid OOMs. As these are
> typically rare events, they have relatively little impact on write endurance.
> However, proactive reclaim runs continuously and so its impact on SSD write
> endurance is more significant. Therefore it is desireable to control swap-out
> for proactive reclaim separately from reactive reclaim
This is understandable but swapout to zswap should be fine, right?
(Sorry I am not following the discussion on zswap patches from Nhat. Is
the answer there?)
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-11-30 18:44 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-11-30 15:36 Dan Schatzberg
2023-11-30 15:36 ` [PATCH 1/1] mm: add swapiness= arg " Dan Schatzberg
2023-11-30 21:33 ` Andrew Morton
2023-11-30 21:46 ` Dan Schatzberg
2023-12-01 1:56 ` Huan Yang
2023-12-01 2:05 ` Yosry Ahmed
2023-12-01 2:13 ` Huan Yang
2023-12-01 2:17 ` Yosry Ahmed
2023-12-01 2:24 ` Huan Yang
2023-11-30 15:57 ` [PATCH 0/1] Add swappiness argument " Michal Hocko
2023-11-30 16:56 ` Johannes Weiner
2023-11-30 18:49 ` Shakeel Butt
2023-11-30 19:47 ` Dan Schatzberg
2023-11-30 20:30 ` Shakeel Butt
2023-11-30 21:37 ` Dan Schatzberg
2023-11-30 21:52 ` Shakeel Butt
2023-12-01 9:33 ` Michal Hocko
2023-12-01 15:49 ` Dan Schatzberg
2023-12-01 17:09 ` Johannes Weiner
2023-12-04 15:23 ` Michal Hocko
2023-12-05 16:19 ` Johannes Weiner
2023-12-07 18:57 ` Michal Koutný
2023-11-30 18:44 ` Shakeel Butt [this message]
2023-11-30 18:54 ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-11-30 19:39 ` Johannes Weiner
2023-11-30 19:49 ` Johannes Weiner
2023-11-30 19:50 ` Dan Schatzberg
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