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From: Shakeel Butt <shakeelb@google.com>
To: Dan Schatzberg <schatzberg.dan@gmail.com>
Cc: Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	Roman Gushchin <roman.gushchin@linux.dev>,
	 Yosry Ahmed <yosryahmed@google.com>, Huan Yang <link@vivo.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,  cgroups@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>,
	 Muchun Song <muchun.song@linux.dev>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	 David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>,
	Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
	 Huang Ying <ying.huang@intel.com>,
	Kefeng Wang <wangkefeng.wang@huawei.com>,
	 Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>,
	"Vishal Moola (Oracle)" <vishal.moola@gmail.com>,
	 Yue Zhao <findns94@gmail.com>, Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/1] Add swappiness argument to memory.reclaim
Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2023 18:44:24 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20231130184424.7sbez2ukaylerhy6@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20231130153658.527556-1-schatzberg.dan@gmail.com>

On Thu, Nov 30, 2023 at 07:36:53AM -0800, Dan Schatzberg wrote:
> (Sorry for the resend - forgot to cc the mailing lists)
> 
> This patch proposes augmenting the memory.reclaim interface with a
> swappiness=<val> argument that overrides the swappiness value for that instance
> of proactive reclaim.
> 
> Userspace proactive reclaimers use the memory.reclaim interface to trigger
> reclaim. The memory.reclaim interface does not allow for any way to effect the
> balance of file vs anon during proactive reclaim. The only approach is to adjust
> the vm.swappiness setting. However, there are a few reasons we look to control
> the balance of file vs anon during proactive reclaim, separately from reactive
> reclaim:
> 
> * Swapout should be limited to manage SSD write endurance. In near-OOM

Is this about swapout to SSD only?

>   situations we are fine with lots of swap-out to avoid OOMs. As these are
>   typically rare events, they have relatively little impact on write endurance.
>   However, proactive reclaim runs continuously and so its impact on SSD write
>   endurance is more significant. Therefore it is desireable to control swap-out
>   for proactive reclaim separately from reactive reclaim

This is understandable but swapout to zswap should be fine, right?
(Sorry I am not following the discussion on zswap patches from Nhat. Is
the answer there?)



  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-11-30 18:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-11-30 15:36 Dan Schatzberg
2023-11-30 15:36 ` [PATCH 1/1] mm: add swapiness= arg " Dan Schatzberg
2023-11-30 21:33   ` Andrew Morton
2023-11-30 21:46     ` Dan Schatzberg
2023-12-01  1:56   ` Huan Yang
2023-12-01  2:05     ` Yosry Ahmed
2023-12-01  2:13       ` Huan Yang
2023-12-01  2:17         ` Yosry Ahmed
2023-12-01  2:24           ` Huan Yang
2023-11-30 15:57 ` [PATCH 0/1] Add swappiness argument " Michal Hocko
2023-11-30 16:56   ` Johannes Weiner
2023-11-30 18:49     ` Shakeel Butt
2023-11-30 19:47     ` Dan Schatzberg
2023-11-30 20:30       ` Shakeel Butt
2023-11-30 21:37         ` Dan Schatzberg
2023-11-30 21:52           ` Shakeel Butt
2023-12-01  9:33     ` Michal Hocko
2023-12-01 15:49       ` Dan Schatzberg
2023-12-01 17:09       ` Johannes Weiner
2023-12-04 15:23         ` Michal Hocko
2023-12-05 16:19           ` Johannes Weiner
2023-12-07 18:57         ` Michal Koutný
2023-11-30 18:44 ` Shakeel Butt [this message]
2023-11-30 18:54   ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-11-30 19:39     ` Johannes Weiner
2023-11-30 19:49   ` Johannes Weiner
2023-11-30 19:50   ` Dan Schatzberg

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