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From: Mike Rapoport <rppt@kernel.org>
To: Yajun Deng <yajun.deng@linux.dev>
Cc: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, mike.kravetz@oracle.com,
	muchun.song@linux.dev, willy@infradead.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 2/2] mm: Init page count in reserve_bootmem_region when MEMINIT_EARLY
Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2023 09:33:57 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20231016063357.GU3303@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1c91dd62-886d-bb05-8aee-22191a8a2d8e@linux.dev>

On Fri, Oct 13, 2023 at 05:29:19PM +0800, Yajun Deng wrote:
> 
> On 2023/10/13 16:48, Mike Rapoport wrote:
> > On Thu, Oct 12, 2023 at 05:53:22PM +0800, Yajun Deng wrote:
> > > On 2023/10/12 17:23, David Hildenbrand wrote:
> > > > On 10.10.23 04:31, Yajun Deng wrote:
> > > > > On 2023/10/8 16:57, Yajun Deng wrote:
> > > > > > > That looks wrong. if the page count would by pure luck be 0
> > > > > > > already for hotplugged memory, you wouldn't clear the reserved
> > > > > > > flag.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > These changes make me a bit nervous.
> > > > > > Is 'if (page_count(page) || PageReserved(page))' be safer? Or do I
> > > > > > need to do something else?
> > > > > > 
> > > > > How about the following if statement? But it needs to add more patch
> > > > > like v1 ([PATCH 2/4] mm: Introduce MEMINIT_LATE context).
> > > > > 
> > > > > It'll be safer, but more complex. Please comment...
> > > > > 
> > > > >      if (context != MEMINIT_EARLY || (page_count(page) ||
> > > > > PageReserved(page)) {
> > > > > 
> > > > Ideally we could make initialization only depend on the context, and not
> > > > check for count or the reserved flag.
> > > > 
> > > This link is v1,
> > > https://lore.kernel.org/all/20230922070923.355656-1-yajun.deng@linux.dev/
> > > 
> > > If we could make initialization only depend on the context, I'll modify it
> > > based on v1.
> > Although ~20% improvement looks impressive, this is only optimization of a
> > fraction of the boot time, and realistically, how much 56 msec saves from
> > the total boot time when you boot a machine with 190G of RAM?
> 
> There are a lot of factors that can affect the total boot time. 56 msec
> saves may be insignificant.
> 
> But if we look at the boot log, we'll see there's a significant time jump.
> 
> before:
> 
> [    0.250334] ACPI: PM-Timer IO Port: 0x508
> [    0.618994] Memory: 173413056K/199884452K available (18440K kernel code,
> 
> after:
> 
> [    0.260229] software IO TLB: area num 32.
> [    0.563497] Memory: 173413056K/199884452K available (18440K kernel code,
> 
> Memory initialization is time consuming in the boot log.

You just confirmed that 56 msec is insignificant and then you send again
the improvement of ~60 msec in memory initialization.

What does this improvement gain in percentage of total boot time?
 
> > I still think the improvement does not justify the churn, added complexity
> > and special casing of different code paths of initialization of struct pages.
> 
> 
> Because there is a loop, if the order is MAX_ORDER, the loop will run 1024
> times. The following 'if' would be safer:
> 
> 'if (context != MEMINIT_EARLY || (page_count(page) || >> PageReserved(page))
> {'

No, it will not.

As the matter of fact any condition here won't be 'safer' because it makes
the code more complex and less maintainable. 
Any future change in __free_pages_core() or one of it's callers will have
to reason what will happen with that condition after the change.

-- 
Sincerely yours,
Mike.


  reply	other threads:[~2023-10-16  6:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-09-28  8:33 [PATCH v4 0/2] mm: Don't set and reset page count in MEMINIT_EARLY Yajun Deng
2023-09-28  8:33 ` [PATCH v4 1/2] mm: pass page count and reserved to __init_single_page Yajun Deng
2023-09-29  8:19   ` Mike Rapoport
2023-09-29  9:37     ` Yajun Deng
2023-09-28  8:33 ` [PATCH v4 2/2] mm: Init page count in reserve_bootmem_region when MEMINIT_EARLY Yajun Deng
2023-09-29  8:30   ` Mike Rapoport
2023-09-29  9:50     ` Yajun Deng
2023-09-29 10:02       ` Mike Rapoport
2023-09-29 10:27         ` Yajun Deng
2023-10-01 18:59           ` Mike Rapoport
2023-10-02  7:03             ` Yajun Deng
2023-10-02  8:47               ` Mike Rapoport
2023-10-02  8:56                 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-10-02 11:10                   ` Mike Rapoport
2023-10-02 11:25                     ` David Hildenbrand
2023-10-03 14:38                       ` Yajun Deng
2023-10-05  5:06                         ` Mike Rapoport
2023-10-05 14:04                           ` Yajun Deng
2023-10-12  9:19                             ` Mike Rapoport
2023-10-12  9:36                               ` Yajun Deng
2023-10-02  8:30     ` David Hildenbrand
2023-10-08  8:57       ` Yajun Deng
2023-10-10  2:31         ` Yajun Deng
2023-10-12  9:23           ` David Hildenbrand
2023-10-12  9:53             ` Yajun Deng
2023-10-13  8:48               ` Mike Rapoport
2023-10-13  9:29                 ` Yajun Deng
2023-10-16  6:33                   ` Mike Rapoport [this message]
2023-10-16  8:10                     ` Yajun Deng
2023-10-16  8:16                       ` David Hildenbrand
2023-10-16  8:32                         ` Yajun Deng
2023-10-16  8:36                           ` David Hildenbrand
2023-10-16 10:17                             ` Yajun Deng
2023-10-17  9:58                               ` Yajun Deng

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