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From: Haibo Li <haibo.li@mediatek.com>
To: <andreyknvl@gmail.com>
Cc: <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	<angelogioacchino.delregno@collabora.com>, <dvyukov@google.com>,
	<glider@google.com>, <haibo.li@mediatek.com>, <jannh@google.com>,
	<kasan-dev@googlegroups.com>,
	<linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
	<linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	<linux-mediatek@lists.infradead.org>, <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	<mark.rutland@arm.com>, <matthias.bgg@gmail.com>,
	<ryabinin.a.a@gmail.com>, <vincenzo.frascino@arm.com>,
	<xiaoming.yu@mediatek.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] kasan:fix access invalid shadow address when input is illegal
Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2023 10:45:59 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20230915024559.32806-1-haibo.li@mediatek.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA+fCnZePgv=V65t4FtJvcyKvhM6yA3amTbPnwc5Ft5YdzpeeRg@mail.gmail.com>

> On Thu, Sep 14, 2023 at 10:41 PM Jann Horn <jannh@google.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Accessing unmapped memory with KASAN always led to a crash when
> > > checking shadow memory. This was reported/discussed before. To improve
> > > crash reporting for this case, Jann added kasan_non_canonical_hook and
> > > Mark integrated it into arm64. But AFAIU, for some reason, it stopped
> > > working.
> > >
> > > Instead of this patch, we need to figure out why
> > > kasan_non_canonical_hook stopped working and fix it.
> > >
> > > This approach taken by this patch won't work for shadow checks added
> > > by compiler instrumentation. It only covers explicitly checked
> > > accesses, such as via memcpy, etc.
> >
> > FWIW, AFAICS kasan_non_canonical_hook() currently only does anything
> > under CONFIG_KASAN_INLINE;
> 
> Ah, right. I was thinking about the inline mode, but the patch refers
> to the issue with the outline mode.
> 
> However, I just checked kasan_non_canonical_hook for SW_TAGS with the
> inline mode: it does not work when accessing 0x42ffffb80aaaaaaa, the
> addr < KASAN_SHADOW_OFFSET check fails. It appears there's something
> unusual about how instrumentation calculates the shadow address. I
> didn't investigate further yet.
> 
> > I think the idea when I added that was that
> > it assumes that when KASAN checks an access in out-of-line
> > instrumentation or a slowpath, it will do the required checks to avoid
> > this kind of fault?
> 
> Ah, no, KASAN doesn't do it.
> 
> However, I suppose we could add what the original patch proposes for
> the outline mode. For the inline mode, it seems to be pointless, as
> most access checks happen though the compiler inserted code anyway.
> 
> I also wonder how much slowdown this patch will introduce.
> 
> Haibo, could you check how much slower the kernel becomes with your
> patch? If possible, with all GENERIC/SW_TAGS and INLINE/OUTLINE
> combinations.
> 
> If the slowdown is large, we can just make kasan_non_canonical_hook
> work for both modes (and fix it for SW_TAGS).

Thanks.
The patch checks each shadow address,so it introduces extra overhead.
Now kasan_non_canonical_hook only works for CONFIG_KASAN_INLINE.
And CONFIG_KASAN_OUTLINE is set in my case.
Is it possible to make kasan_non_canonical_hook works for both 
INLINE and OUTLINE by simply remove the "#ifdef CONFIG_KASAN_INLINE"?
Since kasan_non_canonical_hook is only used after kernel fault,it 
is better if there is no limit.



  reply	other threads:[~2023-09-15  3:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-09-14  8:08 Haibo Li
2023-09-14 17:46 ` Andrey Konovalov
2023-09-14 18:29 ` Andrew Morton
2023-09-14 20:34   ` Andrey Konovalov
2023-09-14 20:40     ` Jann Horn
2023-09-15  1:51       ` Andrey Konovalov
2023-09-15  2:45         ` Haibo Li [this message]
2023-09-15  9:40           ` Haibo Li
2023-09-15 16:53             ` Andrey Konovalov
2023-09-15 16:50           ` Andrey Konovalov
2023-09-15 17:04             ` Jann Horn
2023-09-18  8:12               ` Haibo Li
2023-09-18  7:25             ` Haibo Li

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