From: "Liam R. Howlett" <Liam.Howlett@Oracle.com>
To: Christophe Leroy <christophe.leroy@csgroup.eu>
Cc: "paulmck@kernel.org" <paulmck@kernel.org>,
Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
"maple-tree@lists.infradead.org" <maple-tree@lists.infradead.org>,
"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
"stable@vger.kernel.org" <stable@vger.kernel.org>,
"linux-renesas-soc@vger.kernel.org"
<linux-renesas-soc@vger.kernel.org>,
Shanker Donthineni <sdonthineni@nvidia.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 1/2] maple_tree: Disable mas_wr_append() when other readers are possible
Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2023 11:49:09 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20230912154909.o5qvq7hcsx5j5ksa@revolver> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <93aadecb-3c9b-6b0a-9c8c-2cc46bdd3955@csgroup.eu>
* Christophe Leroy <christophe.leroy@csgroup.eu> [230912 11:27]:
>
>
> Le 12/09/2023 à 17:08, Paul E. McKenney a écrit :
> > On Tue, Sep 12, 2023 at 10:29:30AM -0400, Liam R. Howlett wrote:
> >> * Liam R. Howlett <Liam.Howlett@Oracle.com> [230912 09:56]:
> >>> * Paul E. McKenney <paulmck@kernel.org> [230912 06:00]:
> >>>> On Tue, Sep 12, 2023 at 10:34:44AM +0200, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote:
> >>>>> Hi Paul,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Tue, Sep 12, 2023 at 10:30 AM Paul E. McKenney <paulmck@kernel.org> wrote:
> >>>>>> On Tue, Sep 12, 2023 at 10:23:37AM +0200, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote:
> >>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 12, 2023 at 10:14 AM Paul E. McKenney <paulmck@kernel.org> wrote:
> >>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 11, 2023 at 07:54:52PM -0400, Liam R. Howlett wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> * Paul E. McKenney <paulmck@kernel.org> [230906 14:03]:
> >>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Sep 06, 2023 at 01:29:54PM -0400, Liam R. Howlett wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>> * Paul E. McKenney <paulmck@kernel.org> [230906 13:24]:
> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Sep 06, 2023 at 11:23:25AM -0400, Liam R. Howlett wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> (Adding Paul & Shanker to Cc list.. please see below for why)
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Apologies on the late response, I was away and have been struggling to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> get a working PPC32 test environment.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> * Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org> [230829 12:42]:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Liam,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 18 Aug 2023, Liam R. Howlett wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The current implementation of append may cause duplicate data and/or
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> incorrect ranges to be returned to a reader during an update. Although
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this has not been reported or seen, disable the append write operation
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> while the tree is in rcu mode out of an abundance of caution.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> ...
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> ...
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> RCU-related configs:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> $ grep RCU .config
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> # RCU Subsystem
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> CONFIG_TINY_RCU=y
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> I must have been asleep last time I looked at this. I was looking at
> >>>>>>>> Tree RCU. Please accept my apologies for my lapse. :-/
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> However, Tiny RCU's call_rcu() also avoids enabling IRQs, so I would
> >>>>>>>> have said the same thing, albeit after looking at a lot less RCU code.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> TL;DR:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> 1. Try making the __setup_irq() function's call to mutex_lock()
> >>>>>>>> instead be as follows:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> if (!mutex_trylock(&desc->request_mutex))
> >>>>>>>> mutex_lock(&desc->request_mutex);
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> This might fail if __setup_irq() has other dependencies on a
> >>>>>>>> fully operational scheduler.
> >>
> >> This changes where the interrupts become enabled, but doesn't stop it
> >> from happening. It still throws a WARN after init_IRQ(). I suspect it
> >> is not the way to proceed as there are probably many places that will
> >> need to be changed in both common and arch specific code. As soon as
> >> TIF_NEED_RESCHED is set, then all the checks will need to be altered.
> >
> > Thank you for trying it!
> >
> >> I think we either need to set the boot thread to !idle, avoid call_rcu()
> >> to set TIF_NEED_RESCHED (how was this working before? Do we need rcu
> >> for the IRQs?), or alter the boot order (note this is NOT arch or
> >> platform code here).
> >>
> >> I don't like any of these. I'd like another option, please?
> >
> > My favorite is to move the interrupt enabling later, but Michael Ellerman
> > would know better than would I about the feasibility of this.
> >
>
> I digged into it a bit more, looks like IRQs get enabled by the call to
> cond_resched() in the loop in vm_area_alloc_pages(), which is called
> from powerpc's init_IRQ() fonction when allocating IRQ stacks.
This is another location where the process will enable IRQs because
TIF_NEED_RESCHED was set.
>
> And IRQ stacks definitely need to be enabled before IRQs get enabled, so
> there's something wrong here isn't it ?
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-09-12 15:49 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-08-19 0:43 [PATCH v2 0/2] maple_tree: mas_wr_append() fix ups Liam R. Howlett
2023-08-19 0:43 ` [PATCH v2 1/2] maple_tree: Disable mas_wr_append() when other readers are possible Liam R. Howlett
2023-08-29 16:42 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2023-08-31 5:39 ` Michael Ellerman
2023-08-31 8:25 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2023-08-31 8:45 ` Peng Zhang
2023-08-31 9:43 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2023-09-06 15:23 ` Liam R. Howlett
2023-09-06 17:23 ` Paul E. McKenney
2023-09-06 17:29 ` Liam R. Howlett
2023-09-06 18:02 ` Paul E. McKenney
2023-09-11 23:54 ` Liam R. Howlett
2023-09-12 8:14 ` Paul E. McKenney
2023-09-12 8:23 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2023-09-12 8:30 ` Paul E. McKenney
2023-09-12 8:34 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2023-09-12 10:00 ` Paul E. McKenney
2023-09-12 13:56 ` Liam R. Howlett
2023-09-12 14:29 ` Liam R. Howlett
2023-09-12 15:08 ` Paul E. McKenney
2023-09-12 15:27 ` Christophe Leroy
2023-09-12 15:49 ` Liam R. Howlett [this message]
2023-09-12 15:07 ` Paul E. McKenney
2023-09-12 15:44 ` Liam R. Howlett
2023-09-12 16:49 ` Paul E. McKenney
2023-09-12 17:02 ` Christophe Leroy
2023-09-12 17:09 ` Christophe Leroy
2023-09-12 17:38 ` Liam R. Howlett
2023-09-13 13:14 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2023-09-13 13:24 ` Liam R. Howlett
2023-09-13 13:26 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2023-09-12 14:37 ` Christophe Leroy
2023-09-12 14:10 ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-09-12 14:17 ` Liam R. Howlett
2023-09-06 19:06 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2023-09-11 12:27 ` Linux regression tracking #adding (Thorsten Leemhuis)
2023-10-16 8:29 ` Linux regression tracking #update (Thorsten Leemhuis)
2023-08-30 19:49 ` Andreas Schwab
2023-08-31 5:37 ` Michael Ellerman
2023-08-31 19:01 ` Andreas Schwab
2023-09-12 18:15 ` Andreas Schwab
2023-09-12 19:09 ` Liam R. Howlett
2023-09-12 20:01 ` Andreas Schwab
2023-08-19 0:43 ` [PATCH v2 2/2] maple_tree: Clean up mas_wr_append() Liam R. Howlett
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