From: Mel Gorman <mgorman@techsingularity.net>
To: Muchun Song <muchun.song@linux.dev>
Cc: Linux-MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
Mike Kravetz <mike.kravetz@oracle.com>,
Mike Rapoport <rppt@kernel.org>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Muchun Song <songmuchun@bytedance.com>,
fam.zheng@bytedance.com, liangma@liangbit.com,
punit.agrawal@bytedance.com,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Usama Arif <usama.arif@bytedance.com>
Subject: Re: [External] [v3 4/4] mm: hugetlb: Skip initialization of gigantic tail struct pages if freed by HVO
Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2023 10:58:01 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20230831095801.76rtpgdsvdijbw5t@techsingularity.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <A5CD653A-DAA6-481F-963E-AB04D2170088@linux.dev>
On Thu, Aug 31, 2023 at 02:21:06PM +0800, Muchun Song wrote:
>
>
> > On Aug 30, 2023, at 18:27, Usama Arif <usama.arif@bytedance.com> wrote:
> > On 28/08/2023 12:33, Muchun Song wrote:
> >>> On Aug 25, 2023, at 19:18, Usama Arif <usama.arif@bytedance.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> The new boot flow when it comes to initialization of gigantic pages
> >>> is as follows:
> >>> - At boot time, for a gigantic page during __alloc_bootmem_hugepage,
> >>> the region after the first struct page is marked as noinit.
> >>> - This results in only the first struct page to be
> >>> initialized in reserve_bootmem_region. As the tail struct pages are
> >>> not initialized at this point, there can be a significant saving
> >>> in boot time if HVO succeeds later on.
> >>> - Later on in the boot, HVO is attempted. If its successful, only the first
> >>> HUGETLB_VMEMMAP_RESERVE_SIZE / sizeof(struct page) - 1 tail struct pages
> >>> after the head struct page are initialized. If it is not successful,
> >>> then all of the tail struct pages are initialized.
> >>>
> >>> Signed-off-by: Usama Arif <usama.arif@bytedance.com>
> >> This edition is simpler than before ever, thanks for your work.
> >> There is premise that other subsystems do not access vmemmap pages
> >> before the initialization of vmemmap pages associated withe HugeTLB
> >> pages allocated from bootmem for your optimization. However, IIUC, the
> >> compacting path could access arbitrary struct page when memory fails
> >> to be allocated via buddy allocator. So we should make sure that
> >> those struct pages are not referenced in this routine. And I know
> >> if CONFIG_DEFERRED_STRUCT_PAGE_INIT is enabled, it will encounter
> >> the same issue, but I don't find any code to prevent this from
> >> happening. I need more time to confirm this, if someone already knows,
> >> please let me know, thanks. So I think HugeTLB should adopt the similar
> >> way to prevent this.
> >> Thanks.
> >
> > Thanks for the reviews.
> >
> > So if I understand it correctly, the uninitialized pages due to the optimization in this patch and due to DEFERRED_STRUCT_PAGE_INIT should be treated in the same way during compaction. I see that in isolate_freepages during compaction there is a check to see if PageBuddy flag is set and also there are calls like __pageblock_pfn_to_page to check if the pageblock is valid.
> >
> > But if the struct page is uninitialized then they would contain random data and these checks could pass if certain bits were set?
> >
> > Compaction is done on free list. I think the uninitialized struct pages atleast from DEFERRED_STRUCT_PAGE_INIT would be part of freelist, so I think their pfn would be considered for compaction.
> >
> > Could someone more familiar with DEFERRED_STRUCT_PAGE_INIT and compaction confirm how the uninitialized struct pages are handled when compaction happens? Thanks!
>
> Hi Mel,
>
> Could you help us answer this question? I think you must be the expert of
> CONFIG_DEFERRED_STRUCT_PAGE_INIT. I summarize the context here. As we all know,
> some struct pages are uninnitialized when CONFIG_DEFERRED_STRUCT_PAGE_INIT is
> enabled, if someone allocates a larger memory (e.g. order is 4) via buddy
> allocator and fails to allocate the memory, then we will go into the compacting
> routine, which will traverse all pfns and use pfn_to_page to access its struct
> page, however, those struct pages may be uninnitialized (so it's arbitrary data).
> Our question is how to prevent the compacting routine from accessing those
> uninitialized struct pages? We'll be appreciated if you know the answer.
>
I didn't check the code but IIRC, the struct pages should be at least
valid and not contain arbitrary data once page_alloc_init_late finishes.
--
Mel Gorman
SUSE Labs
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-08-31 9:58 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-08-25 11:18 [v3 0/4] " Usama Arif
2023-08-25 11:18 ` [v3 1/4] mm: hugetlb_vmemmap: Use nid of the head page to reallocate it Usama Arif
2023-08-28 7:15 ` Muchun Song
2023-08-28 18:25 ` Mike Kravetz
2023-08-25 11:18 ` [v3 2/4] memblock: pass memblock_type to memblock_setclr_flag Usama Arif
2023-08-28 7:16 ` Muchun Song
2023-08-28 7:37 ` Mike Rapoport
2023-08-28 18:39 ` Mike Kravetz
2023-08-25 11:18 ` [v3 3/4] memblock: introduce MEMBLOCK_RSRV_NOINIT_VMEMMAP flag Usama Arif
2023-08-28 7:26 ` Muchun Song
2023-08-28 7:47 ` Mike Rapoport
2023-08-28 8:52 ` Muchun Song
2023-08-28 9:09 ` Mike Rapoport
2023-08-28 9:18 ` Muchun Song
2023-08-25 11:18 ` [v3 4/4] mm: hugetlb: Skip initialization of gigantic tail struct pages if freed by HVO Usama Arif
2023-08-28 11:33 ` Muchun Song
2023-08-28 21:04 ` Mike Kravetz
2023-08-29 3:33 ` Muchun Song
2023-08-29 3:47 ` Mike Kravetz
2023-08-30 10:27 ` [External] " Usama Arif
2023-08-31 6:21 ` [External] " Muchun Song
2023-08-31 9:58 ` Mel Gorman [this message]
2023-08-31 10:01 ` Muchun Song
2023-08-31 10:28 ` Mel Gorman
2023-08-31 7:33 ` [External] " Mike Rapoport
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