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From: Stanislav Kinsburskii <skinsburskii@linux.microsoft.com>
To: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
Cc: Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Stanislav Kinsburskii <stanislav.kinsburskii@gmail.com>,
	Derek Kiernan <derek.kiernan@amd.com>,
	Dragan Cvetic <dragan.cvetic@amd.com>,
	Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>, Wei Liu <wei.liu@kernel.org>,
	"K. Y. Srinivasan" <kys@microsoft.com>,
	Madhavan Venkataraman <madvenka@linux.microsoft.com>,
	Anthony Yznaga <anthony.yznaga@oracle.com>,
	"Mike Rapoport (IBM)" <rppt@kernel.org>,
	James Gowans <jgowans@amazon.com>,
	Anirudh Rayabharam <anrayabh@linux.microsoft.com>,
	Jinank Jain <jinankjain@linux.microsoft.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH] Introduce persistent memory pool
Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2023 19:37:23 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20230831023723.GA10443@skinsburskii.> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <122aefbf-0ed7-cdd3-5c0a-3d1c51429598@redhat.com>

On Thu, Aug 31, 2023 at 04:18:48PM +0200, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
> On 8/26/23 22:04, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:
> > > Yeah, I guess the "ABI" word in misleading here, especially the first
> > > letter. I mean something else: the old kernel/new kernel.
> > > This persistent memory pool (its metadata) is supposed to be passed
> > > across kexec with the data. That is probably the main difference in
> > > comparison to pmem or cma.
> > > Since the header can change its format between kernels, there should be
> > > a way to identify it.
> > 
> > Ah.  Hah, that's crazy, and it's never going to work, you need to just
> > test the version of the kernel that the image was created for (you have
> > that in the kernel already) and verify that it is the same before
> > loading the new one.
> > 
> > That way you never have to worry about any "version number", it's just
> > the kernel specific version number instead.
> 
> Checking the version of the kernel is not enough because you want to support
> kexec to a newer kernel.
> 
> I agree though that a version number is not needed.  In the end this is just
> like a filesystem and you'd better keep it backwards compatible. If you
> think you might need an extra field in the header, you have to leave some
> padding and add a "flags" field that right now is always zero.  Or something
> like that.
> 

Thanks for laying it out. I was also thinking about some pads to reserve
in metadata upfront to allow future extensions.
But I guess if we decide to store metadata in device tree, then this
padding won't be required.

Thanks,
Stanislav

> Paolo


      reply	other threads:[~2023-08-31 17:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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     [not found] ` <2023082506-enchanted-tripping-d1d5@gregkh>
2023-08-23  1:36   ` Stanislav Kinsburskii
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2023-08-23  2:45     ` Stanislav Kinsburskii
2023-08-28 20:50       ` Alexander Graf
2023-08-29 22:07         ` Stanislav Kinsburskii
2023-08-30  7:20           ` Alexander Graf
2023-08-30 23:39             ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-08-31  2:24               ` Stanislav Kinsburskii
     [not found]   ` <64e8f6dd.050a0220.edb3c.c045SMTPIN_ADDED_BROKEN@mx.google.com>
2023-08-26  7:45     ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2023-08-23  6:15       ` Stanislav Kinsburskii
     [not found]       ` <64ea25cd.650a0220.642cc.50e6SMTPIN_ADDED_BROKEN@mx.google.com>
2023-08-26 17:02         ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2023-08-23  6:21           ` Stanislav Kinsburskii
     [not found]           ` <64ea3699.170a0220.13ee0.5c3aSMTPIN_ADDED_BROKEN@mx.google.com>
2023-08-26 20:04             ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2023-08-31 14:18               ` Paolo Bonzini
2023-08-31  2:37                 ` Stanislav Kinsburskii [this message]

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