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From: Mike Kravetz <mike.kravetz@oracle.com>
To: "Huang, Ying" <ying.huang@intel.com>
Cc: Kefeng Wang <wangkefeng.wang@huawei.com>, Zi Yan <ziy@nvidia.com>,
	Naoya Horiguchi <naoya.horiguchi@nec.com>,
	Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/4] mm: migrate: use a folio in add_page_for_migration()
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2023 14:12:26 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20230815211226.GA4150@monkey> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87wmxx7y9j.fsf@yhuang6-desk2.ccr.corp.intel.com>

On 08/15/23 11:58, Huang, Ying wrote:
> Mike Kravetz <mike.kravetz@oracle.com> writes:
> 
> > On 08/10/23 09:49, Kefeng Wang wrote:
> >> 
> >> 
> >> On 2023/8/10 6:44, Mike Kravetz wrote:
> >> > On 08/09/23 13:53, Mike Kravetz wrote:
> >> > > On 08/09/23 20:37, Kefeng Wang wrote:
> >> > > > > 
> >> > > > > Cc Mike to help us clarify the expected behavior of hugetlb.
> >> > > > > 
> >> > > > > Hi Mike, what is the expected behavior, if a user tries to use move_pages()
> >> > > > > to migrate a non head page of a hugetlb page?
> >> > > > 
> >> > > > Could you give some advise, thanks
> >> > > > 
> >> > > 
> >> > > Sorry, I was away for a while.
> >> > > 
> >> > > It seems unfortunate that move_pages says the passed user addresses
> >> > > should be aligned to page boundaries.  However, IIUC this is not checked
> >> > > or enforced.  Otherwise, passing a hugetlb page should return the same
> >> > > error.
> >> > > 
> >> > > One thought would be that hugetlb mappings should behave the same
> >> > > non-hugetlb mappings.  If passed the address of a hugetlb tail page, align
> >> > > the address to a hugetlb boundary and migrate the page.  This changes the
> >> > > existing behavior.  However, it would be hard to imagine anyone depending
> >> > > on this.
> >> > > 
> >> > > After taking a closer look at the add_page_for_migration(), it seems to
> >> > > just ignore passed tail pages and do nothing for such passed addresses.
> >> > > Correct?  Or, am I missing something?  Perhaps that is behavior we want/
> >> > > need to preserve?
> >> > 
> >> > My mistake, status -EACCES is returned when passing a tail page of a
> >> > hugetlb page.
> >> > 
> >> 
> >> As mentioned in previous mail, before e66f17ff7177 ("mm/hugetlb: take
> >> page table lock in follow_huge_pmd()") in v4.0, follow_page() will
> >> return NULL on tail page for Huagetlb page, so move_pages() will return
> >> -ENOENT errno, but after that commit, -EACCES is returned.
> >> 
> >> Meanwhile, the behavior of THP/HUGETLB is different, the whole THP will be
> >> migrated on a tail page, but HUGETLB will return -EACCES(after v4.0)
> >> or -ENOENT(before v4.0) on tail page.
> >> 
> >> > Back to the question of 'What is the expected behavior if a tail page is
> >> > passed?'.  I do not think we have defined an expected behavior.  If
> >> > anything is 'expected' I would say it is -EACCES as returned today.
> >> > 
> >> 
> >> My question is,
> >> 
> >> Should we keep seem behavior between HUGETLB and THP, or only change the
> >> errno from -EACCES to -ENOENT/-EBUSY.
> >
> > Just to be clear.  When you say "keep seem behavior between HUGETLB and THP",
> > are you saying that you would like hugetlb to perform migration of the entire
> > hugetlb page if a tail page is passed?
> >
> > IMO, this would be ideal as it would mean that hugetlb and THP behave the same
> > when passed the address of a tail page.  The fewer places where hugetlb
> > behavior diverges, the better.  However, this does change behavior.
> 
> A separate patch will be needed for behavior change.
> 

Correct.

Since the goal of this series is to convert to folios, we should maintain the
existing behavior and errno (-EACCES).  In a subsequent patch, we can
change behavior.

That would be my suggestion.
-- 
Mike Kravetz


  reply	other threads:[~2023-08-15 21:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-08-02  9:53 [PATCH 0/4] mm: migrate: more folio conversion Kefeng Wang
2023-08-02  9:53 ` [PATCH 1/4] mm: migrate: use a folio in add_page_for_migration() Kefeng Wang
2023-08-02 12:21   ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-08-03  7:13     ` Kefeng Wang
2023-08-03 12:30       ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-08-04  1:45         ` Kefeng Wang
2023-08-04  2:42           ` Zi Yan
2023-08-04  5:54             ` Kefeng Wang
2023-08-07 12:20               ` Kefeng Wang
2023-08-07 18:45                 ` Zi Yan
2023-08-09 12:37                   ` Kefeng Wang
2023-08-09 20:53                     ` Mike Kravetz
2023-08-09 22:44                       ` Mike Kravetz
2023-08-10  1:49                         ` Kefeng Wang
2023-08-10 16:29                           ` Mike Kravetz
2023-08-15  3:58                             ` Huang, Ying
2023-08-15 21:12                               ` Mike Kravetz [this message]
2023-08-16  0:50                                 ` Kefeng Wang
2023-08-15  3:56               ` Huang, Ying
2023-08-15 13:49                 ` Zi Yan
2023-08-15 20:39                   ` Huang, Ying
2023-08-02  9:53 ` [PATCH 2/4] mm: migrate: convert numamigrate_isolate_page() to numamigrate_isolate_folio() Kefeng Wang
2023-08-02 12:30   ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-08-03  7:08     ` Kefeng Wang
2023-08-06  5:04       ` Hugh Dickins
2023-08-02  9:53 ` [PATCH 3/4] mm: migrate: make migrate_misplaced_page() to take a folio Kefeng Wang
2023-08-02  9:53 ` [PATCH 4/4] mm: migrate: use __folio_test_movable() Kefeng Wang
2023-08-02 12:37   ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-08-02 12:38   ` David Hildenbrand
2023-08-02 11:47 ` [PATCH 0/4] mm: migrate: more folio conversion David Hildenbrand
2023-08-02 12:38   ` Kefeng Wang
2023-08-03  9:34     ` David Hildenbrand

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