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From: Christian Brauner <brauner@kernel.org>
To: Jeff Layton <jlayton@kernel.org>
Cc: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>, Alexander Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	"Darrick J. Wong" <djwong@kernel.org>,
	Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>,
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	Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>,
	Chuck Lever <chuck.lever@oracle.com>,
	Amir Goldstein <amir73il@gmail.com>,
	David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>, Neil Brown <neilb@suse.de>,
	Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
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	Josef Bacik <josef@toxicpanda.com>,
	David Sterba <dsterba@suse.com>,
	Namjae Jeon <linkinjeon@kernel.org>,
	Steve French <sfrench@samba.org>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 2/9] fs: add infrastructure for multigrain inode i_m/ctime
Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2023 08:29:29 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20230614-fanal-infamieren-b9c106e37b73@brauner> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <11dc42c327c243ea1def211f352cb4fc38094cc0.camel@kernel.org>

On Tue, Jun 13, 2023 at 09:09:29AM -0400, Jeff Layton wrote:
> On Tue, 2023-05-23 at 14:46 +0200, Jan Kara wrote:
> > On Tue 23-05-23 06:40:08, Jeff Layton wrote:
> > > On Tue, 2023-05-23 at 12:02 +0200, Jan Kara wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > So there are two things I dislike about this series because I think they
> > > > are fragile:
> > > > 
> > > > 1) If we have a filesystem supporting multigrain ts and someone
> > > > accidentally directly uses the value of inode->i_ctime, he can get bogus
> > > > value (with QUERIED flag). This mistake is very easy to do. So I think we
> > > > should rename i_ctime to something like __i_ctime and always use accessor
> > > > function for it.
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > We could do this, but it'll be quite invasive. We'd have to change any
> > > place that touches i_ctime (and there are a lot of them), even on
> > > filesystems that are not being converted.
> > 
> > Yes, that's why I suggested Coccinelle to deal with this.
> 
> 
> I've done the work to convert all of the accesses of i_ctime into
> accessor functions in the kernel. The current state of it is here:
> 
>    
> https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/jlayton/linux.git/commit/?h=ctime
> 
> As expected, it touches a lot of code, all over the place. So far I have
> most of the conversion in one giant patch, and I need to split it up
> (probably per-subsystem).

Yeah, you have time since it'll be v6.6 material.

> 
> What's the best way to feed this change into mainline? Should I try to
> get subsystem maintainers to pick these up, or are we better off feeding
> this in via a separate branch?

I would prefer if we send them all through the vfs tree since trickle
down conversions are otherwise very painful and potentially very slow.


  reply	other threads:[~2023-06-14  6:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-05-18 11:47 [PATCH v4 0/9] fs: implement multigrain timestamps Jeff Layton
2023-05-18 11:47 ` [PATCH v4 1/9] fs: pass the request_mask to generic_fillattr Jeff Layton
2023-05-23  9:17   ` Jan Kara
2023-05-18 11:47 ` [PATCH v4 2/9] fs: add infrastructure for multigrain inode i_m/ctime Jeff Layton
2023-05-23 10:02   ` Jan Kara
2023-05-23 10:17     ` Jan Kara
2023-05-23 10:56       ` Jeff Layton
2023-05-23 11:01         ` Christian Brauner
2023-05-23 11:15           ` Jeff Layton
2023-06-13 19:47       ` Jeff Layton
2023-05-23 10:38     ` Christian Brauner
2023-05-23 10:40     ` Jeff Layton
2023-05-23 12:46       ` Jan Kara
2023-06-13 13:09         ` Jeff Layton
2023-06-14  6:29           ` Christian Brauner [this message]
2023-05-18 11:47 ` [PATCH v4 3/9] overlayfs: allow it to handle multigrain timestamps Jeff Layton
2023-05-18 11:47 ` [PATCH v4 4/9] nfsd: ensure we use ctime_peek to grab the inode->i_ctime Jeff Layton
2023-05-18 13:43   ` Chuck Lever III
2023-05-18 15:31     ` Jeff Layton
2023-05-19 10:36       ` Christian Brauner
2023-05-19 11:22         ` Jeff Layton
2023-05-18 11:47 ` [PATCH v4 5/9] ksmbd: use ctime_peek to grab the ctime out of the inode Jeff Layton
2023-05-18 11:47 ` [PATCH v4 6/9] tmpfs: add support for multigrain timestamps Jeff Layton
2023-05-18 11:47 ` [PATCH v4 7/9] xfs: switch to " Jeff Layton
2023-05-18 11:47 ` [PATCH v4 8/9] ext4: convert " Jeff Layton
2023-05-20 20:29   ` Theodore Ts'o
2023-05-18 11:47 ` [PATCH v4 9/9] btrfs: " Jeff Layton
2023-05-22  9:56   ` David Sterba
2023-05-22 10:08     ` Jeff Layton
2023-05-22 10:53       ` Christian Brauner
2023-05-22  9:54 ` [PATCH v4 0/9] fs: implement " Christian Brauner

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