From: Hillf Danton <hdanton@sina.com>
To: Douglas Anderson <dianders@chromium.org>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Mel Gorman <mgorman@techsingularity.net>,
Alexander Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
Christian Brauner <brauner@kernel.org>,
linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>, Yu Zhao <yuzhao@google.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3] migrate_pages: Avoid blocking for IO in MIGRATE_SYNC_LIGHT
Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2023 18:13:45 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20230429101345.2769-1-hdanton@sina.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20230428135414.v3.1.Ia86ccac02a303154a0b8bc60567e7a95d34c96d3@changeid>
On 28 Apr 2023 13:54:38 -0700 Douglas Anderson <dianders@chromium.org>
> The MIGRATE_SYNC_LIGHT mode is intended to block for things that will
> finish quickly but not for things that will take a long time. Exactly
> how long is too long is not well defined, but waits of tens of
> milliseconds is likely non-ideal.
>
> When putting a Chromebook under memory pressure (opening over 90 tabs
> on a 4GB machine) it was fairly easy to see delays waiting for some
> locks in the kcompactd code path of > 100 ms. While the laptop wasn't
> amazingly usable in this state, it was still limping along and this
> state isn't something artificial. Sometimes we simply end up with a
> lot of memory pressure.
Was kcompactd waken up for PAGE_ALLOC_COSTLY_ORDER?
>
> Putting the same Chromebook under memory pressure while it was running
> Android apps (though not stressing them) showed a much worse result
> (NOTE: this was on a older kernel but the codepaths here are similar).
> Android apps on ChromeOS currently run from a 128K-block,
> zlib-compressed, loopback-mounted squashfs disk. If we get a page
> fault from something backed by the squashfs filesystem we could end up
> holding a folio lock while reading enough from disk to decompress 128K
> (and then decompressing it using the somewhat slow zlib algorithms).
> That reading goes through the ext4 subsystem (because it's a loopback
> mount) before eventually ending up in the block subsystem. This extra
> jaunt adds extra overhead. Without much work I could see cases where
> we ended up blocked on a folio lock for over a second. With more
> extreme memory pressure I could see up to 25 seconds.
In the same kcompactd code path above?
>
> We considered adding a timeout in the case of MIGRATE_SYNC_LIGHT for
> the two locks that were seen to be slow [1] and that generated much
> discussion. After discussion, it was decided that we should avoid
> waiting for the two locks during MIGRATE_SYNC_LIGHT if they were being
> held for IO. We'll continue with the unbounded wait for the more full
> SYNC modes.
>
> With this change, I couldn't see any slow waits on these locks with my
> previous testcases.
Well this is the upside after this change, but given the win, what is
the lose/cost paid? For example the changes in compact fail and success [1].
[1] https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20230418191313.268131-1-hannes@cmpxchg.org/
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-04-29 10:14 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-04-28 20:54 Douglas Anderson
2023-04-29 2:33 ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-04-29 10:13 ` Hillf Danton [this message]
2023-05-02 21:08 ` Doug Anderson
2023-05-02 8:29 ` Mel Gorman
[not found] ` <20230430085300.3173-1-hdanton@sina.com>
2023-05-02 21:20 ` Doug Anderson
2023-05-03 1:45 ` Hillf Danton
2023-05-05 17:11 ` Doug Anderson
2023-05-06 1:22 ` Hillf Danton
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