From: Mel Gorman <mgorman@techsingularity.net>
To: Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, Kaiyang Zhao <kaiyang2@cs.cmu.edu>,
Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>,
David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, kernel-team@fb.com
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 12/26] mm: page_alloc: per-migratetype free counts
Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2023 17:03:20 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20230421160320.zz2he2iprq37vnl3@techsingularity.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20230421153501.GE320347@cmpxchg.org>
On Fri, Apr 21, 2023 at 11:35:01AM -0400, Johannes Weiner wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 21, 2023 at 03:28:41PM +0100, Mel Gorman wrote:
> > On Tue, Apr 18, 2023 at 03:12:59PM -0400, Johannes Weiner wrote:
> > > Increase visibility into the defragmentation behavior by tracking and
> > > reporting per-migratetype free counters.
> > >
> > > Subsequent patches will also use those counters to make more targeted
> > > reclaim/compaction decisions.
> > >
> > > Signed-off-by: Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>
> >
> > Visibility into fragmentation behaviour is information that is
> > almost certainly only useful to a developer and even then, there is
> > /proc/pagetypeinfo. At minimum, move this patch to later in the series
> > but I'm skeptical about its benefit.
>
> Having them available in the memory dump (OOM, sysrq) was essential
> while debugging problems in later patches. For OOMs or lockups,
> pagetypeinfo isn't available. It would be useful to have them included
> in user reports if any issues pop up.
>
OOM+sysrq could optionally take the very expensive step of traversing the
lists to get the count so yes, it helps debugging, but not necessarily
critical.
> They're used internally in several places later on, too.
>
I did see that for deciding the suitability for compaction. Minimally, put
the patches adjacent in the series and later if possible so that the series
can be taken in parts. There are a lot of patches that should be relatively
uncontroversial so maybe make "mm: page_alloc: introduce MIGRATE_FREE" the
pivot point between incremental improvements and "everything on and after
this patch is relatively high risk, could excessively compact/reclaim,
could livelock etc".
--
Mel Gorman
SUSE Labs
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-04-21 16:03 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 76+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-04-18 19:12 [RFC PATCH 00/26] mm: reliable huge page allocator Johannes Weiner
2023-04-18 19:12 ` [RFC PATCH 01/26] block: bdev: blockdev page cache is movable Johannes Weiner
2023-04-19 4:07 ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-04-21 12:25 ` Mel Gorman
2023-04-18 19:12 ` [RFC PATCH 02/26] mm: compaction: avoid GFP_NOFS deadlocks Johannes Weiner
2023-04-21 12:27 ` Mel Gorman
2023-04-21 14:17 ` Johannes Weiner
2023-04-18 19:12 ` [RFC PATCH 03/26] mm: make pageblock_order 2M per default Johannes Weiner
2023-04-19 0:01 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2023-04-19 2:55 ` Johannes Weiner
2023-04-19 3:44 ` Johannes Weiner
2023-04-19 11:10 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-04-19 10:36 ` Vlastimil Babka
2023-04-19 11:09 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-04-21 12:37 ` Mel Gorman
2023-04-18 19:12 ` [RFC PATCH 04/26] mm: page_isolation: write proper kerneldoc Johannes Weiner
2023-04-21 12:39 ` Mel Gorman
2023-04-18 19:12 ` [RFC PATCH 05/26] mm: page_alloc: per-migratetype pcplist for THPs Johannes Weiner
2023-04-21 12:47 ` Mel Gorman
2023-04-21 15:06 ` Johannes Weiner
2023-04-28 10:29 ` Mel Gorman
2023-04-18 19:12 ` [RFC PATCH 06/26] mm: page_alloc: consolidate free page accounting Johannes Weiner
2023-04-21 12:54 ` Mel Gorman
2023-04-21 15:08 ` Johannes Weiner
2023-04-18 19:12 ` [RFC PATCH 07/26] mm: page_alloc: move capture_control to the page allocator Johannes Weiner
2023-04-21 12:59 ` Mel Gorman
2023-04-18 19:12 ` [RFC PATCH 08/26] mm: page_alloc: claim blocks during compaction capturing Johannes Weiner
2023-04-21 13:12 ` Mel Gorman
2023-04-25 14:39 ` Johannes Weiner
2023-04-18 19:12 ` [RFC PATCH 09/26] mm: page_alloc: move expand() above compaction_capture() Johannes Weiner
2023-04-18 19:12 ` [RFC PATCH 10/26] mm: page_alloc: allow compaction capturing from larger blocks Johannes Weiner
2023-04-21 14:14 ` Mel Gorman
2023-04-25 15:40 ` Johannes Weiner
2023-04-28 10:41 ` Mel Gorman
2023-04-18 19:12 ` [RFC PATCH 11/26] mm: page_alloc: introduce MIGRATE_FREE Johannes Weiner
2023-04-21 14:25 ` Mel Gorman
2023-04-18 19:12 ` [RFC PATCH 12/26] mm: page_alloc: per-migratetype free counts Johannes Weiner
2023-04-21 14:28 ` Mel Gorman
2023-04-21 15:35 ` Johannes Weiner
2023-04-21 16:03 ` Mel Gorman [this message]
2023-04-21 16:32 ` Johannes Weiner
2023-04-18 19:13 ` [RFC PATCH 13/26] mm: compaction: remove compaction result helpers Johannes Weiner
2023-04-21 14:32 ` Mel Gorman
2023-04-18 19:13 ` [RFC PATCH 14/26] mm: compaction: simplify should_compact_retry() Johannes Weiner
2023-04-21 14:36 ` Mel Gorman
2023-04-25 2:15 ` Johannes Weiner
2023-04-25 0:56 ` Huang, Ying
2023-04-25 2:11 ` Johannes Weiner
2023-04-18 19:13 ` [RFC PATCH 15/26] mm: compaction: simplify free block check in suitable_migration_target() Johannes Weiner
2023-04-21 14:39 ` Mel Gorman
2023-04-18 19:13 ` [RFC PATCH 16/26] mm: compaction: improve compaction_suitable() accuracy Johannes Weiner
2023-04-18 19:13 ` [RFC PATCH 17/26] mm: compaction: refactor __compaction_suitable() Johannes Weiner
2023-04-18 19:13 ` [RFC PATCH 18/26] mm: compaction: remove unnecessary is_via_compact_memory() checks Johannes Weiner
2023-04-18 19:13 ` [RFC PATCH 19/26] mm: compaction: drop redundant watermark check in compaction_zonelist_suitable() Johannes Weiner
2023-04-18 19:13 ` [RFC PATCH 20/26] mm: vmscan: use compaction_suitable() check in kswapd Johannes Weiner
2023-04-25 3:12 ` Huang, Ying
2023-04-25 14:26 ` Johannes Weiner
2023-04-26 1:30 ` Huang, Ying
2023-04-26 15:22 ` Johannes Weiner
2023-04-27 5:41 ` Huang, Ying
2023-04-18 19:13 ` [RFC PATCH 21/26] mm: compaction: align compaction goals with reclaim goals Johannes Weiner
2023-04-18 19:13 ` [RFC PATCH 22/26] mm: page_alloc: manage free memory in whole pageblocks Johannes Weiner
2023-04-18 19:13 ` [RFC PATCH 23/26] mm: page_alloc: kill highatomic Johannes Weiner
2023-04-18 19:13 ` [RFC PATCH 24/26] mm: page_alloc: kill watermark boosting Johannes Weiner
2023-04-18 19:13 ` [RFC PATCH 25/26] mm: page_alloc: disallow fallbacks when 2M defrag is enabled Johannes Weiner
2023-04-21 14:56 ` Mel Gorman
2023-04-21 15:24 ` Johannes Weiner
2023-04-21 15:55 ` Mel Gorman
2023-04-18 19:13 ` [RFC PATCH 26/26] mm: page_alloc: add sanity checks for migratetypes Johannes Weiner
2023-04-18 23:54 ` [RFC PATCH 00/26] mm: reliable huge page allocator Kirill A. Shutemov
2023-04-19 2:08 ` Johannes Weiner
2023-04-19 10:56 ` Vlastimil Babka
2023-04-19 4:11 ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-04-21 16:11 ` Mel Gorman
2023-04-21 17:14 ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-05-02 15:21 ` David Hildenbrand
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