From: Hillf Danton <hdanton@sina.com>
To: Mike Galbraith <efault@gmx.de>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
mingo@kernel.org, vincent.guittot@linaro.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
mgorman@suse.de, bristot@redhat.com, corbet@lwn.net,
kprateek.nayak@amd.com, youssefesmat@chromium.org,
joel@joelfernandes.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/17] sched: EEVDF using latency-nice
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2023 21:33:33 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20230411133333.1790-1-hdanton@sina.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <c66114c4b659fc0ef50c7df1769f3acadc08fd63.camel@gmx.de>
On Tue, 11 Apr 2023 12:15:41 +0200 Mike Galbraith <efault@gmx.de>
> On Mon, 2023-04-10 at 16:23 +0800, Hillf Danton wrote:
> >
> > In order to only narrow down the poor performance reported, make a tradeoff
> > between runtime and latency simply by restoring sysctl_sched_min_granularity
> > at tick preempt, given the known order on the runqueue.
>
> Tick preemption isn't the primary contributor to the scheduling delta,
> it's wakeup preemption. If you look at the perf summaries of 5 minute
> recordings on my little 8 rq box below, you'll see that the delta is
> more than twice what a 250Hz tick could inflict. You could also just
> turn off WAKEUP_PREEMPTION and watch the delta instantly peg negative.
>
> Anyway...
>
> Given we know preemption is markedly up, and as always a source of pain
> (as well as gain), perhaps we can try to tamp it down a little without
> inserting old constraints into the shiny new scheduler.
>
> The dirt simple tweak below puts a dent in the sting by merely sticking
> with whatever decision EEVDF last made until it itself invalidates that
> decision. It still selects via the same math, just does so the tiniest
> bit less frenetically.
>
> ---
> kernel/sched/fair.c | 3 +++
> kernel/sched/features.h | 6 ++++++
> 2 files changed, 9 insertions(+)
>
> --- a/kernel/sched/fair.c
> +++ b/kernel/sched/fair.c
> @@ -950,6 +950,9 @@ static struct sched_entity *pick_eevdf(s
> if (curr && (!curr->on_rq || !entity_eligible(cfs_rq, curr)))
> curr =3D NULL;
>
> + if (sched_feat(GENTLE_EEVDF) && curr)
> + return curr;
> +
This is rather aggressive, given latency-10 curr and latency-0 candidate
at tick hit for instance. And along your direction a mild change is
postpone the preempt wakeup to the next tick.
+++ b/kernel/sched/fair.c
@@ -7932,8 +7932,6 @@ static void check_preempt_wakeup(struct
return;
cfs_rq = cfs_rq_of(se);
- update_curr(cfs_rq);
-
/*
* XXX pick_eevdf(cfs_rq) != se ?
*/
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-04-11 13:33 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
[not found] <20230328092622.062917921@infradead.org>
[not found] ` <20230328110354.641979416@infradead.org>
2023-03-30 7:53 ` [PATCH 15/17] [RFC] sched/eevdf: Sleeper bonus Hillf Danton
[not found] ` <20230328110354.141543852@infradead.org>
2023-03-30 11:02 ` [PATCH 08/17] sched/fair: Implement an EEVDF like policy Hillf Danton
[not found] ` <20230328110354.562078801@infradead.org>
[not found] ` <CAKfTPtAkFBw5zt0+WK7dWBUE9OrbOOExG8ueUE6ogdCEQZhpXQ@mail.gmail.com>
2023-04-01 23:23 ` [PATCH 14/17] sched/eevdf: Better handle mixed slice length Hillf Danton
2023-04-02 2:40 ` Mike Galbraith
2023-04-02 6:28 ` Hillf Danton
[not found] ` <20230410031350.GA49280@maniforge>
2023-04-10 8:23 ` [PATCH 00/17] sched: EEVDF using latency-nice Hillf Danton
2023-04-11 10:15 ` Mike Galbraith
2023-04-11 13:33 ` Hillf Danton [this message]
2023-04-11 14:56 ` Mike Galbraith
[not found] ` <20230412025042.1413-1-hdanton@sina.com>
2023-04-12 4:05 ` Mike Galbraith
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